Genesis 8 compatibles not working for me

I'm still not able to get Genesis 8 beta from Mistara to work for me I'm still getting the message "Warning: file /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf could not be found" after trying to either open or import it into Carrara 8.5

anyone who got it work could you tell  me how you did it...

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,562

    Have you installed the Genesis 8 Female Starter Essentials, and for the male Genesis 8 Male Starter Essentials ?

    Should be available in the DAZ Install Manager.

  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    edited September 2017
    Bunyip02 said:

    Have you installed the Genesis 8 Female Starter Essentials, and for the male Genesis 8 Male Starter Essentials ?

    Should be available in the DAZ Install Manager.

     

    yes it's already installed, this is the same problem with G3 as well....

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  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,562

    Try searching your DAZ directory for the Genesis8Female.dsf file. A quick search of my directory located the G8F & G3F files.

     

  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    Bunyip02 said:

    Try searching your DAZ directory for the Genesis8Female.dsf file. A quick search of my directory located the G8F & G3F files.

     

    I can see it but Carrara can't for some reason...these were installed by the Install Manager...

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,048

    Make sure you are loading from the correct folder within Carrara

    Content Tab-->My Daz 3D Library-->People-->Genesis 8 Carrara Beta

    Loads fine yes

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158

    Misty's Genesis 3 and Genesis 8 characters load for me.  However, the genesis 8 male can't find "opacity.jpg" when it is loading.  Nor can I.  Hmmmmm.  I created and saved a global Carrara shader for Genesis 8 male so it doesn't matter, but thought it worth reporting.

  • 3DAGE3DAGE Posts: 3,311

    I think an important question is ,..

    Why are people so insistant on using the "newest" figure from these folks ?  especially when these folks show no interest in adding support for that figure to Carrara.

    G3/G8 "Does NOT work in carrara" it's a bad idea to suggest that it does, or that misty's work is G3/G8,. it's not. it's a composite G3/G2.

    There are literally hundreds of useable human figures which work in Carrara,. they all have a variety of skin textures, clothing, poses,. which work correctly in carrara.

     

    I feel it's also important to ask,..

    Why should Daz Productions Inc,. ever add support for this figure (or any future figures) to Carrara  ,. if the users have created a backward (gen1/gen2) version,. which they can share, and they can just about get to work.

     why bother.

    Carrara is a FULL 3D Suite,. it's unfortunate that many of it's users cannot see past buying the latest "ready made" dolly.

     

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,562

    I use the figure that the clothes I am using was made for, and also Genesis which uses autofit for V4 & M4.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    edited September 2017

    Horses for courses.

     

    I enjoy making my own figure meshes, rigging them myself, and posing them myself in Carrara.  yes

    I also like the support asets that other people make, whether for free or for sale.  In some cases, I will acquire and use these 3rd party assets.  yes

    And, I like mixing my own creations with 3rd party content.

     

     

    With all due respect, I don't have to justify my choices.  Thank you, Misty, for your work on Carrara versions of G3 and G8 rigged meshes, and enabling a blended weightmapped version of new PA content to work in Carrara.  More tools in my toolbox is better than fewer.

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  • SileneUKSileneUK Posts: 1,975
    edited September 2017

    G3 has more bones in the face, and the expressions and morphs give a better variety. I did a side-by-side comparing G2 and G3 and G3 was much more realistic. So I am very happy to use Misty's workaround. They make my Neanderthal people's faces look more natural and less freakish.  Yes, I can do this with G2, but it involves messing about in Zbrush and being careful to only move the mesh and not add or subtract as it will mess up the existing morphs.

    angel Silene

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  • because it exists cheeky

    and I cannot even use G8 in any useful way in DAZ studio because no animations work and no way to convert anything either.

    Only thing I actually can use them in is iClone but it brings nothing extra to the table that Genesis 3 does not already have, that works well in iClone with my own self posed facial bone based expressions and a re-exported FBX works in Carrara, not so much the duf versions as my DAZ studio converted animations are rather off. Are off in studio too though.

  • mimic plugin works on both though so there is that

  • Nornally, I choose a figure depending on what clothing I'm planning on using. Autofit in Carrara doesn't work well for me and creates a lot of distortion and poke through. It's much easier to use the figure that the product was designed for. Also, I find that the newer products have more detail, such as wrinkles, fold, etc., that make them look realistic. Most of my renders are of superheros and MightyMite has released a lot of good costumes on another site, but they're mostly for G3. Sure, I could try and create my own content, but the part of 3D rendering that I enjoy is laying out the scene and creating the correct lighting. For me it's not a case of using the latest and greatest technology! I had stopped buying any content and was thinking about giving up on Carrara when Misty released her product for G3. Being able to use G3 has renewed my interest in Carrara. Thanks Misty.

  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    Stezza said:

    Make sure you are loading from the correct folder within Carrara

    Content Tab-->My Daz 3D Library-->People-->Genesis 8 Carrara Beta

    Loads fine yes

    This is where they are...and they still are not loading..are they supposed to have their own "Genesis8Female.dsf" file, I didn't see one in the .zip file from the download, only Genesis 2 loads from that folder..

     

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  • that looks like a path error

    did you add your DAZ library as well as your Poser format Runtime to your content?

    Does Genesis and genesis 2 load?

    is there a nested folder? if you used DIM to install them all it should be under People

    and the data file under DAZ 3D Genesis 3

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    the opacity.jpg is for the eyemoisture and cornea to load transparent in carrara

    whee ds channels = carrara shader channels wink

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    mhscspo said:
    Bunyip02 said:

    Try searching your DAZ directory for the Genesis8Female.dsf file. A quick search of my directory located the G8F & G3F files.

     

    I can see it but Carrara can't for some reason...these were installed by the Install Manager...

    does this screenshot looks like the 'genesis 8 carrara beta' folder is under the 'data' folder?

    the 'genesis 8 carrara beta' should be 1 level up from the ;data' folder. 

  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    th3Digit said:

    that looks like a path error

    did you add your DAZ library as well as your Poser format Runtime to your content?

    Does Genesis and genesis 2 load?

    is there a nested folder? if you used DIM to install them all it should be under People

    and the data file under DAZ 3D Genesis 3

    here are my installation folders, Genesis and Genesis 2 loads just fine....

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited September 2017

    move this folder to people folder (red arrow)

     

    check the  'runtime, textures'  didnt go to your data folder. move it up one level.

    happy renders smiley

     

    i am groot

     

    kwd 

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    there a movie idea for mr.morpheus, enlightenedlaugh  The Compatibles

  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    Mistara said:

    move this folder to people folder (red arrow)

     

    check the  'runtime, textures'  didnt go to your data folder. move it up one level.

    happy renders smiley

     

    i am groot

     

    kwd 

    thanks for the advice but if you look at the second folder you will see that the g8 beta folder is in the people folder which is in "my daz 3d library"

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    edited September 2017
    mhscspo said:

    I'm still not able to get Genesis 8 beta from Mistara to work for me I'm still getting the message "Warning: file /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf could not be found" after trying to either open or import it into Carrara 8.5

    anyone who got it work could you tell  me how you did it...

     

    I opened it and got it to work.

    How did I do it?

    I downloaded the zip file from that other store.  I extracted the files to where my Daz Studio content files are located.  This put the folder with the genesis 8 male character as a subfolder of   ...\content\people\ ...  

     

    After that, I started a new Carrara scene.  I clicked and dragged the Genesis 8 character from that subfolder to my scene.  It loaded and was capable of posing, being retextured, morphed, rendered, etc.

     

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited September 2017

    which are we troubleshooting?

    janette ?

    johnathon?

    g8 female beta?

    g8 male beta?

     

    screenshots are showing us genesis1 and 2 are working.yes

    whivh version of carrara,  8.5.119 x64 bit?

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    Diomede said:
    mhscspo said:

    I'm still not able to get Genesis 8 beta from Mistara to work for me I'm still getting the message "Warning: file /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf could not be found" after trying to either open or import it into Carrara 8.5

    anyone who got it work could you tell  me how you did it...

     

    I opened it and got it to work.

    How did I do it?

    I downloaded the zip file from that other store.  I extracted the files to where my Daz Studio content files are located.  This put the folder with the genesis 8 male character as a subfolder of   ...\content\people\ ...  

     

    After that, I started a new Carrara scene.  I clicked and dragged the Genesis 8 character from that subfolder to my scene.  It loaded and was capable of posing, being retextured, morphed, rendered, etc.

     

    smileysmiley i am groot 

  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    Mistara said:

    which are we troubleshooting?

    janette ?

    johnathon?

    g8 female beta?

    g8 male beta?

     

    screenshots are showing us genesis1 and 2 are working.yes

    whivh version of carrara,  8.5.119 x64 bit?

    trouble shooting both g8 female beta and g8 male beta

    I'm using Carrara 8.5.0.243 and 8.5.119 both x64 bit

    Just to let you know the install path is C:\Public Documents\My Daz  3D Library\People\Genesis 8 Carrara Beta

    I don't have a Content subfolder in "My Daz 3D Library" , is there supposed to be one?

    Inside Carrara I added the People folder under the content tab and tried to load both g8 female and male and still get "Genesis8Male.dsf could not be found" and "Genesis8Female.dsf could not be found"

     

    Diomede said:
    mhscspo said:

    I'm still not able to get Genesis 8 beta from Mistara to work for me I'm still getting the message "Warning: file /data/DAZ 3D/Genesis 8/Female/Genesis8Female.dsf could not be found" after trying to either open or import it into Carrara 8.5

    anyone who got it work could you tell  me how you did it...

     

    I opened it and got it to work.

    How did I do it?

    I downloaded the zip file from that other store.  I extracted the files to where my Daz Studio content files are located.  This put the folder with the genesis 8 male character as a subfolder of   ...\content\people\ ...  

     

    After that, I started a new Carrara scene.  I clicked and dragged the Genesis 8 character from that subfolder to my scene.  It loaded and was capable of posing, being retextured, morphed, rendered, etc.

    tried that, and it still doesn't load the good thing is it doesn't crash Carrara like the other g3 and g8 does...

     

     

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675
    edited September 2017

    are your genesis 8 starter files installed to this same path?  C:\Public Documents\My Daz 3D Library

    lets concentrate on your carrara 8.5.119 pc.  i've never tried g3 or g8 on an older version.

     

    do you have daz studio installed?

    if yes, what happens when you load a genesis 8 figure in daz studio?

     

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  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    edited September 2017
    Mistara said:

    are your genesis 8 starter files installed to this same path?  C:\Public Documents\My Daz 3D Library

    lets concentrate on your carrara 8.5.119 pc.  i've never tried g3 or g8 on an older version.

     

     

    do you have daz studio installed?

     

    if yes, what happens when you load a genesis 8 figure in daz studio?

    I'm using Carrara 8.5.119

    Yes genesis starter files are in the same path C:\Public Documents\My Daz 3D Library

    I have daz studio 4.9

    g8 male and female loads into daz studio and so does g8 beta with no problem

     

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  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    okay. i think that narrows it down to your carrara communicating with the library folder.

    hmmm

    ,actually, this screenshot here looks odd
    there is a top folder there named 'people'
    and there's a folder named 'My Daz3d Library Runtime'
     

    there should be a folder name there to match exactly 

    "My Daz 3D Library"

    remove that >data  folder

    remove that >people  folder

    if  >My Daz3d Library Runtime  is not a poser folder, remove that >My Daz3d Library Runtime  folder

     

    go into add runtime, when it asks what type, don't select poser, the other option is for daz library,
    then browse to exactly this folder:  C:\Public Documents\My Daz 3D Library

    this is the top folder to connect to --> My Daz 3D Library

    after it's connected you should see My Daz 3D Library in the carara browser tray, People folder will be a subfolder under it.

     

    crossfingers

     

    i dont have any screenshots handy for adding/removing folders.

    my area has a tropical storm coming, i have to bring in my patio stuff. weather channel is saying up to 35mph winds >.<.

  • VyusurVyusur Posts: 2,235
    edited September 2017

    I use G3/G8 figures without any installations, just dragging and dropping from my browser folder into Carrara's window when I need them.

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  • mhscspomhscspo Posts: 101
    Mistara said:

    okay. i think that narrows it down to your carrara communicating with the library folder.

    hmmm

    ,actually, this screenshot here looks odd
    there is a top folder there named 'people'
    and there's a folder named 'My Daz3d Library Runtime'
     

    there should be a folder name there to match exactly 

    "My Daz 3D Library"

    remove that >data  folder

    remove that >people  folder

    if  >My Daz3d Library Runtime  is not a poser folder, remove that >My Daz3d Library Runtime  folder

     

    go into add runtime, when it asks what type, don't select poser, the other option is for daz library,
    then browse to exactly this folder:  C:\Public Documents\My Daz 3D Library

    this is the top folder to connect to --> My Daz 3D Library

    after it's connected you should see My Daz 3D Library in the carara browser tray, People folder will be a subfolder under it.

     

    crossfingers

     

    i dont have any screenshots handy for adding/removing folders.

    my area has a tropical storm coming, i have to bring in my patio stuff. weather channel is saying up to 35mph winds >.<.

    ok, this what I did as per your  instructions, the only way the folder loaded into the content window was as "Libraries" and not My Daz 3D Library, (screenshot #3), I opened that folder and there was no "people folder as a sub-menu, there is one in it for Character wich in turn has  Daz People folder...Something is afoot here!!

     

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