John needs constructive criticism on his renders.

johnenverga

I'm just wondering what people think of my renders...what I've done right, what needs improvement, and so on.

 

Linwelly

Hi John, welcom to the DAZ forums.

what I like about the first render is that you managed to catch the shadows very nicely. What I miss is what do you want to tell with your renders, what is the story behind?

I take it you're very new to the program, so I'd like to direct you to the new user challenges where a lot of topics will be adressed through the year and you can post your images to get feedback and learn.

This month challenge is on posing, here is the link: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/235981/march-2018-daz-3d-new-user-challenge-posing#latest

I hope you will enjoy!

johnenverga

Linwelly said:

Hi John, welcom to the DAZ forums.

what I like about the first render is that you managed to catch the shadows very nicely. What I miss is what do you want to tell with your renders, what is the story behind?

I take it you're very new to the program, so I'd like to direct you to the new user challenges where a lot of topics will be adressed through the year and you can post your images to get feedback and learn.

This month challenge is on posing, here is the link: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/235981/march-2018-daz-3d-new-user-challenge-posing#latest

I hope you will enjoy!

Oh okay! So what you're saying is that there needs to be a story behind the renders?

I'll look into that new users challenge thing. Seems very helpful!

Thanks for your feedback! I really appreciate it!

IceDragonArt

HI John, welcome the madness... umm I mean the art forums lol. 

Linwelly is right the new user chellenge forum will shorten your learning curve by a huge amount.  I know it sure did for me.

Even if you don't have a specific story to tell, composition is important. 

Your middle render, where they are watching tv, there is a lot of empty space around them, you could crop that in a bit closer and really make the girls the focus. 

I'm looking forward to seeing more of your renders and don't hesitate to ask questions if you get stuck, everyone around here is really helpful.

Linwelly

johnenverga said:

Linwelly said:

Hi John, welcom to the DAZ forums.

what I like about the first render is that you managed to catch the shadows very nicely. What I miss is what do you want to tell with your renders, what is the story behind?

I take it you're very new to the program, so I'd like to direct you to the new user challenges where a lot of topics will be adressed through the year and you can post your images to get feedback and learn.

This month challenge is on posing, here is the link: https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/235981/march-2018-daz-3d-new-user-challenge-posing#latest

I hope you will enjoy!

Oh okay! So what you're saying is that there needs to be a story behind the renders?

I'll look into that new users challenge thing. Seems very helpful!

Thanks for your feedback! I really appreciate it!

Its not absolutely necessary, maybe story is a bit too much. Maybe the right words would be " why do you want to render it? what is your interest in the work". Sometimes that is showing a beautiful face or item, or maybe hair. Sometimes that is just testing a scenery or a movement, all that is perfectly fine. For me that usually is a story that is why I chose that word. Its kind of like driving a car, you can drive a car but if you don't know where you want to go, you will never arrive. So try to know what you aim for in an image. Does that make sense?

IceDragonArt

Yes, what she said lol Ask yourself, what's the focus of this image. Is it the person?  Is it her face? body?  eyes?   expression?  Are you trying to portray a certain mood?  Or is it about what they are doing and not about the person?  Once you figure that out, you can focus on making that the focus.  There are a bunch of sticky threads in the challenge forum that cover a lot of that stuff,check out the ones on composition.

Tynkere

Hi John, and welcome to the fun!

I'm new at this myself, so can't comment about "how to"

I wanted to thank you though, for having the courage to just jump in with both feet.  

Gave me the courage to do the same. 

Best wishes!

--Bruce

johnenverga

Linwelly and IceDragonArt:

Ah I see what you mean. I agree with what what you guys said. Thank you both for the advice!

Tynkere (Bruce):

Thank you for the welcome! I'm glad I made a difference!

 

mori_mann

Welcome! I don't like sounding like an echo, but Linwelly and IceDragonArt are right. Always ask yourself 'what do I want to show here'? It makes for a more interesting image. Not jsut for yourself, but it makes others stop and have a closer look.

Although when you just set out in this 3D adventure, it's perfectly fine if the answer is 'I'm just going to see what happens if I do this'. I think I can safely say we all started out experimenting a lot.

 

BeeMKay

Welcome to the fun, John.

It takes a while until your image will reach a state where you will be (at least a bit) satisfied with them. It's just so much to learn, and so many things to keep an eye on. The "story" that an image communicates is a very important aspect. Then, there's the purely "technical" aspect.

For example, in your first image, you maybe want to experiment with the light a bit. Is your headlamp on the camera set to "on" or "automatic"? This will flood more light into the scene than you really need with a broad daylight in the sun image, and blow out the colours. The poses are nice and the hair falls naturally, so that is a good thing.

The third image... I'm not quite sure what your goal with that one was, so it is hard to give feedback.

Tynkere

johnenverga said:

Tynkere (Bruce):

Thank you for the welcome! I'm glad I made a difference!

 

You're braver than I am!  Guess I owe you one.  : )

This month the New User Challenge might look kind of intimidating-- having to pick a photograph you try to copy exactly.

Most of the time it's much less strict, and everyone there is very nice and supportive of one another.  I've only been participating since October, but have learned more from the group and Community Volunteers (members who are allowed to have "CV" as part of their sig ) than I probably would've learned in a year's worth of tutorials. 

Then again, I'm not much of a video tutorial person.  To each his own I guess.

Anyway, best wishes!

--Bruce

johnenverga

mori_mann and BeeMKay:

Thank you for the advice! I know that the "story" is a common theme with all your advice. I also agree with you, BeeMKay, about the lighting. I will fix that before I attempt to re-render the image.

Bruce:

Thanks again for the kind words! Best wishes to you too!