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Help needed with long skirt creation.

WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
edited December 1969 in New Users

I am trying to make a long skirt for Genesis, BUT once I have used the transfer utility the mesh is all messed up. (See 1st Pic.)

If I try to change the shape or the pose of Genesis the mesh explodes! (see 2nd Pic)

Please, please, please, can someone save my sanity by explaining in simple terms what I am doing wrong and how do I fix it.

I found that making clothes fit Genesis was relatively easy, UNTIL I decided to make some long skirts and dresses.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,833
    edited December 1969

    Well, first you probably want to remove the foot bones or at least give them zero weight for all their transforms. Did you model the skirt to fit the base Genesis shape, or did you model to the female shape and then use Reverse source shape in the Transfer utility?

  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited July 2012

    This skirt was modelled on the Genesis V4 shape, but the same thing happens when I model on the Genesis base shape.

    I did use the reverse option as well.

    Post edited by Wilmap on
  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited July 2012

    Can't anyone help?

    I'm so frustrated with this that I shall give up if I don't get any help.

    I'll go back to plain old shirts and skirts.:-/

    Post edited by Wilmap on
  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,833
    edited December 1969

    I don't know what's happening, but perhaps if you post a screenshot showing the weightmaps for the rotations that cause the issue (assuming you can pin it down that precisely) it may suggest something.

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 7,006
    edited December 1969

    Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

    By SickleYield:
    “Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

    And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385

  • PendraiaPendraia Posts: 3,598
    edited July 2012

    Patience55 said:
    Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

    By SickleYield:
    “Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

    And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385

    All good tutorials.

    Wendy, could you provide the process you are currently using and some images as you work through it? That may help us to see what is happening. I know you have done short skirts before long skirts are a similar process so should work. At least my attempts have done so using Jan's starter dress.

    Just wanted to add what's happened looks similar to what you get in hexagon sometimes when you add thickness...vertices exploding all over the place.

    Post edited by Pendraia on
  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited December 1969

    Patience55 said:
    Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

    By SickleYield:
    “Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

    And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385


    Yes I've seen both of those tutorials and tried to follow them.

  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited December 1969

    Pendraia said:
    Patience55 said:
    Have you seen the tutorials for rigging skirts? Might help.

    By SickleYield:
    “Rigging a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?t=181707

    And “Morphing a Skirt for Genesis”
    http://forumarchive.daz3d.com/viewtopic.php?p=3251385#3251385

    All good tutorials.

    Wendy, could you provide the process you are currently using and some images as you work through it? That may help us to see what is happening. I know you have done short skirts before long skirts are a similar process so should work. At least my attempts have done so using Jan's starter dress.

    Just wanted to add what's happened looks similar to what you get in hexagon sometimes when you add thickness...vertices exploding all over the place.


    Thansk Pendria, I will look into the thickness problem, although I don't think I added it to the skirt.

  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited December 1969

    I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie's Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

    Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 7,006
    edited December 1969

    wilmap said:
    I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie's Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

    Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

    I love that set too. And her tutorial is also very helpful.

  • PendraiaPendraia Posts: 3,598
    edited December 1969

    Patience55 said:
    wilmap said:
    I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie's Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

    Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

    I love that set too. And her tutorial is also very helpful.
    I've got Bobbies Rigging for skirts but not Blondies. I have Blondies rigging for base figures with the gingerbread man. Could you please provide a link? I tend to grab everything I can on rigging.

  • patience55patience55 Posts: 7,006
    edited July 2012

    Pendraia said:
    Patience55 said:
    wilmap said:
    I have just made yet another long dress and used Blondie's Donor Rigging Dress and this time it seems to have worked!

    Not the way I wanted to do it, but at least I can now stop pulling my hair out!

    I love that set too. And her tutorial is also very helpful.


    I've got Bobbies Rigging for skirts but not Blondies. I have Blondies rigging for base figures with the gingerbread man. Could you please provide a link? I tend to grab everything I can on rigging.
    .
    Oh the heat wave is getting to our brains ... I think I've confused a few names here. Sorry.
    .
    Yes it's Bobbie25's item that I was thinking of. Is this the one you also meant wilmap?
    Edit: yes I think so; .... nice share, thank you: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/3583/
    .
    http://www.daz3d.com/shop/genesis-basic-clothing-rig-kit/
    Has a tutorial included for how to use it.
    .
    She also has: http://www.daz3d.com/shop/hairtexturingkit/ for those that might be interested.
    .
    For those interested here's Blondie9999's tut:
    http://www.daz3d.com/shop/rigging-original-figures-in-ds4-pro/
    Post edited by patience55 on
  • PendraiaPendraia Posts: 3,598
    edited December 1969

    Patience55 said:
    Pendraia said:

    I've got Bobbies Rigging for skirts but not Blondies. I have Blondies rigging for base figures with the gingerbread man. Could you please provide a link? I tend to grab everything I can on rigging.
    .
    Oh the heat wave is getting to our brains ... I think I've confused a few names here. Sorry.No problem, I would just hate to have missed getting anything on rigging or modelling. I wish it was hot here, we have temperatures of 5 degrees c recently which for Melbourne is quite cold.
    .
    Patience55 said:
    ; .... nice share, thank you: http://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/3583/
    Thanks...nice work Wendy...I don't know how you produce them so quickly...it takes me forever.


    She also has: http://www.daz3d.com/shop/hairtexturingkit/ for those that might be interested.

    Thanks I hadn't seen that previously.
    .
  • WilmapWilmap Posts: 2,917
    edited July 2012

    Sorry it was my mistake to put Blondies. It should of course have been Bobbie 25.

    Post edited by Wilmap on
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