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  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,522
    edited December 1969

    evilproducer said:
    Dartanbeck said:
    Speaking of Markus Rothkranz, Check This Out! I never knew he actually wrote and directed a movie. But he did ;)

    It's a commercial! The clips to the movie look okay, but I can't stand the motivational speaker-spiel!Perhaps, but there's actually very little of that in that clip... just a bit in the beginning and at the end.

  • wetcircuitwetcircuit Posts: 0
    edited April 2014

    evilproducer said:
    Dartanbeck said:
    Speaking of Markus Rothkranz, Check This Out! I never knew he actually wrote and directed a movie. But he did ;)

    It's a commercial! The clips to the movie look okay, but I can't stand the motivational speaker-spiel!
    Become vegetarian! Drive a sports car! Get a bangin' wife....

    he is living the life in Southern California :sick: it's raining in NYC and I just ate 4 chocolates.

    :long: At least he is wearing a shirt in that video..

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  • mrposermrposer Posts: 1,130
    edited December 1969

    Hey maybe a "Carrara Bad Animation Festival" would make a fun contest. I might even dust off my copy... maybe I won't lose tract of my production frame this time (why can't it be Wygiwys..mmm. now that doesn't even look right). Of course you could have a door prize for whoever actually submits the best animation.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,522
    edited May 2014

    Like "Just for Fun", Previsual Renders A was simply a test of 'making a movie' using a bunch of test render animations, but these test renders were actually done in an attempt to create enough footage to make a mini video using the much changed Movie Maker for Windows, which I've decided never to use again. I feel that it was much better before they made it "Live". More accurately, I enjoyed using it in XP, but don't care for it at all in the Win 7+ Live version... but it was brand new back when I made this. It's probably been touched up a bit since then.

    This was my first attempt (period) at making an animation. Although my own skills were very lacking then, it did make me realize that Carrara was to be my system of creating them, as it is perfect for it. For a fellow like me on a non-existent budget but with imagination begging to get out. A fellow with no formal training in the field but plenty of ambition to pick up on whatever I can as I go. I cannot afford the really expensive computers and software that broadcast professionals use. Carrara fills the gap for more than just a modeler/render/animation package. It includes stuff that must be done either with external apps or additional plugins. With the added benefit of the available plugins made for Carrara, it really gets powerful! I also use Project Dogwaffle Pro: Howler as my After Effects (etc.,) replacement. It fits my non-existent budget very well, and it never stops surprising me with all that it can do to my animation clips. Love it!

    With Previsual Renders A, as horrible as it gets, I still like to watch it from time to time. Being my very first attempt, I like looking back on some of the expression work I did back then. It all leads us somewhere, right? We all must begin or we'll never be able to do it at all, for it takes practice ;)

    Holly, I can't remember if a made my usual Big Buzz about that playlist of yours, but I just watched the whole list again and commend you for the effort. It's a fine collection and I always enjoy watching it.

    It feels good for me to be back into it. This time I'm not so much in a rush. I'm just taking my time to do some really fun things according to my grand design, which is ever changing - and now even has a secondary path that branches off and does it's own thing, while also being somewhat tied to the other... so it's actually two productions going on at the same time, which is really fun.

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,179
    edited May 2014

    sorry Holly, but that Heidie Ho one was actually largely iClone with Carrara rendered backgrounds.
    cannot actually think of any of my 700 odd videos of any quality you could replace it with though :lol:

    some more typical "Wendy" Carrara videos

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKPqzDWyOoo
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bdh1topnV4w
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO8F5y7aGqI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwJgv5yef38
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eMPh-FpkNE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aTXKwGTai_g

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  • wetcircuitwetcircuit Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    I got into Carrara for visual FX... I was kinda icked out by the Poser mannequins (I still have lots of uncanny valley issues with them), but Carrara's lights and shaders were always clean and fast and it made AWESOME virtual sets.

    The idea of Carrara being used to "animate" was a completely different genre back then - more emphasis on the camera and lights..., and it was being used in SO MANY production environments and graphics studios... It was used in a few indie horror and scifi movies for certain FX shots. Local TV stations used it all the time, so there were lots of flying logos and lens flares - things you would now probably do in After Effects.... I think it was an old Yahoo Group. Lot's of people use to post there. Carrara was a completely different community before DAZ.

  • wetcircuitwetcircuit Posts: 0
    edited May 2014

    wendy♥catz said:
    sorry Holly, but that Heidie Ho one was actually largely iClone with Carrara rendered backgrounds.
    Off the top of my head cannot actually think of any of my 700 odd videos of any quality you could replace it with though :lol:

    I was hunting your youtube last night looking for stuff to put on Cafe... 700+ You are the EMPRESS of the INTERWEBS!

    :ohh: OOH! Thank you for the links! That makes it much easier! <3</p>

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,179
    edited December 1969

    I tend to do a lo of things in carrara but render in iClone or a mix of both

  • wetcircuitwetcircuit Posts: 0
    edited May 2014

    wendy♥catz said:
    I tend to do a lo of things in carrara but render in iClone or a mix of both

    TUTORIAL! TUTORIAL! :cheese:

    (article at Cafe!)

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  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    edited December 1969

    Here are links to a couple of animations that I have done with Carrara:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61wxc6X_hRY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvH6VNpib8
    (The latter one has animation from around 4.00 done in Carrara).

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,522
    edited December 1969

    Very cool, Phil :coolhmm:

    PhilW said:
    Here are links to a couple of animations that I have done with Carrara:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61wxc6X_hRY
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOvH6VNpib8
    (The latter one has animation from around 4.00 done in Carrara).

    holly wetcircuit said:
    I tend to do a lo of things in carrara but render in iClone or a mix of both

    TUTORIAL! TUTORIAL! :cheese:

    (article at Cafe!)Oh absolutely! A compilation of Wendy's workflows would be the coolest thing!
    Girl's got some incredibly nifty techniques and paths.... I'd love to see some Tutorials by Wendy Loves Cats!

  • DADA_universeDADA_universe Posts: 336
    edited December 1969

    I'm surprised I've never seen anyone refer to Restif Argenta's Vimeo channel (http://vimeo.com/user307826) whenever these moments of doubt for Carrara's animation capabilities necessitate references to the contrary. Unfortunately, even that channel exhibits only experiments and short takes, but for me they're clean enough to suggest that given the time and right resources, the animator could come up with a really nice short film. What I do wonder about is how Restif manages to get those really nice animation clips done, is it the lighting? Or a particularly powerful computer rig? Perhaps its all about an animator with a keen eye who is finding the best ways to get the best output out of the available tool set like in this clip where Fenric's ERC was used to good effect for automated muscle morphs: http://vimeo.com/85055556

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,983
    edited May 2014

    Edited for silly ness

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  • RestifRestif Posts: 61
    DADA_universe said:

    I'm surprised I've never seen anyone refer to Restif Argenta's Vimeo channel (http://vimeo.com/user307826) whenever these moments of doubt for Carrara's animation capabilities necessitate references to the contrary. Unfortunately, even that channel exhibits only experiments and short takes, but for me they're clean enough to suggest that given the time and right resources, the animator could come up with a really nice short film. What I do wonder about is how Restif manages to get those really nice animation clips done, is it the lighting? Or a particularly powerful computer rig? Perhaps its all about an animator with a keen eye who is finding the best ways to get the best output out of the available tool set like in this clip where Fenric's ERC was used to good effect for automated muscle morphs: http://vimeo.com/85055556

    Thanks, I've loved doing animation in Carrara, though to get results I like has been a challenge. Vimeo closed my channel and I am looking for another host. For fun last year I did a bried 'Trailer' project for Keepers of Wrath.  I've Posted it on Wistia for now. Here is the link:  https://restif.wistia.com/medias/103s3gnc9t   Carrara definitely has some set backs for animation, but some great things as well. Fully rigged, nice character models ready to go (DAZ/Poser) is a plus, landscape editor, nice and relatively fast GI rendering all play a part.  Keep in mind, this animation is real rough and more of an idea than a finished product. But a lot of fun to do.

  • DUDUDUDU Posts: 1,945

     It looks like a promotion trailer of a superb feature film,… Excellent!
    Carrara is far from being dead !

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,232
    Restif said:
    DADA_universe said:

     

      Carrara definitely has some set backs for animation, but some great things as well. Fully rigged, nice character models ready to go (DAZ/Poser) is a plus, landscape editor, nice and relatively fast GI rendering all play a part.   ...  a lot of fun to do.

    Yes, very nice.  I also enjoy creating short animations with Carrara, and even entering them in contests like the 48 Hour Film contest.  Yes, they are amateur level (as are virtually all the 48 Hour entries, all the rest live action), but its a very engrossing hobby.  Story development, character creation/development, props, sets, lighting, action sequences, dialogue (unless I can avoid it), music, sound FX, special FX, ...   Sometimes laying in bed and all of a sudden thinking (dreaming?) "Aha!  I know how to set up that scene!  Like Lynch did in 'Twin Peaks'! "  Fun stuff indeed.

  • mmoirmmoir Posts: 821

    Nice job on this Restif, it has some very nice parts in it.

    Restif said:

    Thanks, I've loved doing animation in Carrara, though to get results I like has been a challenge. Vimeo closed my channel and I am looking for another host. For fun last year I did a bried 'Trailer' project for Keepers of Wrath.  I've Posted it on Wistia for now. Here is the link:  https://restif.wistia.com/medias/103s3gnc9t   Carrara definitely has some set backs for animation, but some great things as well. Fully rigged, nice character models ready to go (DAZ/Poser) is a plus, landscape editor, nice and relatively fast GI rendering all play a part.  Keep in mind, this animation is real rough and more of an idea than a finished product. But a lot of fun to do.

     

  • mmoirmmoir Posts: 821
    DUDU said:

     It looks like a promotion trailer of a superb feature film,… Excellent!
    Carrara is far from being dead !

    Dudu,

      How are things over at Carrarators site,  I started working on my animation again for that challenge which ended in May or June.  I have a couple of clips to render and then add sound and edit but I should have my first animation done in a month or so.

     

  • destrechtdestrecht Posts: 24

    Here's one I made (also a commerical). I definately could have made it better, though. Mainly the lighting to match the film. 

  • DUDUDUDU Posts: 1,945
    mmoir said:
    DUDU said:

     

    Dudu,

      How are things over at Carrarators site,  I started working on my animation again for that challenge which ended in May or June.  I have a couple of clips to render and then add sound and edit but I should have my first animation done in a month or so.

     

    Hi Mike, nice to see you back!
    The things do not move so much on Carrarators for the moment…
    We don't have challenges anymore and as you have seen (even here on DAZ forum), people are not very hot to take part in a common project.
    Despite everything, if you need assistance, or if you want to launch a new challenge, you are always welcome on Carrarators!

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