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Strange Lighting Problem with New Model - Creature from the Depths

NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
edited June 2014 in Technical Help (nuts n bolts)

I bought, downloaded and installed Creature from the Depths HD for Genesis.
The model itself looks amazing.

However, something's not right. When I load the character in, and create a new light, nothing happens in the viewport.

And it gets weirder, if I render out a still, the light from the light source IS VISIBLE in the render, but not in the viewport.

I've made sure "scene lights" were active in the light panel. This isn't happening with any other models, just this new one I installed today.

Also, if I only apply the character morph, and not the materials, lights work fine.

But once I add the materials, lights stop working in the viewport.

Any ideas? I've been trying to figure this out for 2 hours now and can't get anywhere.

Post edited by NoName99 on

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  • Lissa_xyzLissa_xyz Posts: 6,116
    edited December 1969

    Is Window > Preview Lights enabled?

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    Hey thanks for replying!

    Yeah preview lights are enabled.

    Hmmm........this is so weitd

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,842
    edited December 1969

    How many other lights were already in your scene?

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    None. I opened a new project, loaded the character, added a light......

    And nothing.

    I tried adding a different light, still nothing.

    I rebooted my computer, tried again, still no luck.

    If I switch the materials to Genesis neutral grey, everything works fine, so the problem appears to be caused by the materials that came with the character model.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    Can you go over your exact steps? I tried the following:
    Launch DS 4.6.3.52
    Load Creature from the Deep character.
    Created new spotlight using Active Transforms (default Perspective view).
    It's working normally here.

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    Can you go over your exact steps? I tried the following:
    Launch DS 4.6.3.52
    Load Creature from the Deep character.
    Created new spotlight using Active Transforms (default Perspective view).
    It's working normally here.

    That's exactly how I did it.

  • fixmypcmikefixmypcmike Posts: 19,583
    edited December 1969

    dinopt said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Can you go over your exact steps? I tried the following:
    Launch DS 4.6.3.52
    Load Creature from the Deep character.
    Created new spotlight using Active Transforms (default Perspective view).
    It's working normally here.

    That's exactly how I did it.

    Have you tried uninstalling and redownloading the Creature?

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    I tried uninstalling and re-installing without re-downloading.

    I'm going to try re-downloading and do a manual install, not using install manager.

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    fixmypcmike said:
    dinopt said:
    fixmypcmike said:
    Can you go over your exact steps? I tried the following:
    Launch DS 4.6.3.52
    Load Creature from the Deep character.
    Created new spotlight using Active Transforms (default Perspective view).
    It's working normally here.

    That's exactly how I did it.

    Have you tried uninstalling and redownloading the Creature?

    So I still haven't gotten this to work right.

    I uninstalled, redownloaded, and reinstalled. Still having the same problem.

    Really strange, it's the only model I'm having this problem with. Everything else is working fine.
    Any help would be appreciated, I was really looking forward to using this model in an animation.

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    I'm going to try a manual install, and bypass Install Manager.

    I just noticed, is there a 64 bit version of Install Manager?

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    Re-downloaded and re-installed everything manually...........Still not working.

  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited June 2014

    dinopt said:
    I'm going to try a manual install, and bypass Install Manager.

    I just noticed, is there a 64 bit version of Install Manager?

    Install manager does not need to be 64 bit to do its job. It does not come in a 64bit version.

    EDIT: Something is definitely off with your system. It renders properly with any light set up I toss at it.
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  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited June 2014

    Jaderail said:

    Install manager does not need to be 64 bit to do its job. It does not come in a 64bit version.

    EDIT: Something is definitely off with your system. It renders properly with any light set up I toss at it.

    Thanks.

    It renders out properly for me too. The problem is, when I create a light in my scene, I can't see the light effecting the model, or anything else in the scene.

    If I render out a still image, light effecting the scene is visible.

    Post edited by NoName99 on
  • JaderailJaderail Posts: 0
    edited December 1969

    dinopt said:
    Jaderail said:

    Install manager does not need to be 64 bit to do its job. It does not come in a 64bit version.

    EDIT: Something is definitely off with your system. It renders properly with any light set up I toss at it.

    Thanks.

    It renders out properly for me too. The problem is, when I create a light in my scene, I can't see the light effecting the model, or anything else in the scene.

    If I render out a still image, light effecting the scene is visible. OH!! Click got it... was got getting that part. Never noticed if that happens. I never worry over the Viewport look as it never matches my full render anyway. Okay I'm on the same page now. Got it.

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    OH!! Click got it... was got getting that part. Never noticed if that happens. I never worry over the Viewport look as it never matches my full render anyway. Okay I'm on the same page now. Got it.

    Yeah that's how I've been working around it. I'm posing/animating without seeing the light in the viewport, and rendering out stills to see how it looks.

    It's just bothering me that it's only happening with this one particular character. What's even stranger is that it happens when I add the materials. If I just add the shape to Genesis and keep the neutral grey genesis mats, everything is fine. I can even add the Jeremy mats, or Troll mats, and everything is still good.

    But once I add the Creature from the Depths mats, the lights stop working in the viewport.

    As endearingly temperamental as Daz can be, this is probably the oddest snafu I've come across.

  • jestmartjestmart Posts: 4,449
    edited December 1969

    If the creature is using AoA's SSS shader than the issue is the SSS channel causes the surface it is applied to to appear to 'glow' in preview.

  • NoName99NoName99 Posts: 322
    edited December 1969

    jestmart said:
    If the creature is using AoA's SSS shader than the issue is the SSS channel causes the surface it is applied to to appear to 'glow' in preview.

    Thank You!!!

    Thats exactly what is happening.
    This was really driving me crazy.

    Thanks again!

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