Really getting discouraged these days

    Since I am stuck att home, I've been trying to pick up on my artwork again... but I am feeling really discouraged.    I updated to Poser 12, but Daz Products that use DSON don't work with Pose 12.     So I installed my favorite software, Carrara 8.5 pro on my system.  Genesis 3 and above still don't work properly in Carrara.     They have bridges for unity, blender, maya, etc....   but I still can't load genesis 3 into carrara, their own product.    Now, I'm sure someone will tell me that if I just set everything just so in Daz Studio, export into a different format while changing a dozen settings, then import the external format into carrara that I can get something into carrara...  Clothes might not fit right, I can't repose it, morphs stop working..  but something loads.    I was so excited with the Genesis line when it came out.   I adore how I could load any clothing onto a character and have it fit....   And yes, I mainly used it in Carrara, my favorite software.    I wouldn't mind buying a new version of Carrara to get the figures working, but that is not an option.     Does anyone know why Carrara has been abandoned?

                                                                               Really Discouraged today.

                                                                                                       Boojum

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,054

    they have no resources ( money ) to update it... well, that's the reply I got from them a few years ago.

    who needs Genesis stuff anyways when you got LoRenzo & LoRetta laugh

    and Carrara to do stuff with wink 

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,602
    edited February 2021
    Carrara Compatible Character Preset for Genesis 8 Male - https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/freestuff/carrara-compatible-character-preset-for-genesis-8-male/77745
    
    Carrara Compatible Character Preset for Genesis 8 Female - https://www.renderosity.com/rr/mod/freestuff/carrara-compatible-character-preset-for-genesis-8-female/77504

    For Genesis 3 check out Misty's store at Renderosity while you check out the Genesis 8 freebie's

    Misty has also done Carrara 8.1 - https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/469526/le-8-1-presets-beta#latest

    All clothing and hair need to be converted & saved as Blended Weight in DAZ Studio.

    EDIT : Wendy beat me to it !

    Post edited by Bunyip02 on
  •     He goes and gives it a try...   "Well, the body seems to be working.    The eyes are black pits after loading a texture onto him.    The texture I loaded was Quenton.    So then I loaded a second G8 Preset, copied the Cornea and Moisture textures over from the second avatar onto the first.   That gave me eyes.     Do you happen to have a link to instructions on how to convert clothing to blend weight so I can dress him?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206
    edited February 2021

    with garment selected

    edit/figure/rigging/ convert triax general to Blended weight

    then save as a scene subset

    can do each garment in and outfit and if genesis 8 is selected in Carrara when you load the scene subset it will conform each piece, may take a few minutes

    this is my win 7 D|S4.14 beta but my other builds of D|S and on my Win10 I made a shortcut to do this

    that is a bit harder to explain though

    blended.jpg
    891 x 763 - 180K
    Post edited by WendyLuvsCatz on
  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,602

    Follow the steps to save as Blended weight, then save as a Scene Subset in DAZ Studio, I normally add "bw" to the save name to identify it as blended weight

    Note : If you want to apply a particular character morph to your character in Carrara, you will also need to apply the to your blended weight character in DAZ Studio for clothing & hair. Preset for 8.1 must also be the same size or there will be misplaced bone problems in Carrara. Hope everything works for you !

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,234

    I'm happily working away on another Carrara animation - using lots of Poser format products with no problems.  Not too many from DAZ in recent years, but lots from elsewhere coming out daily.

  •     YAY!!!!   Thank you, thank you, Thank you!    Now I'm all happy!    I got Genesis 8 into Carrara, clothing, and rendered all without crashing!!!

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,602

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    yes

    Looking good !!!

  • SileneUKSileneUK Posts: 1,975

    Misty  Mystiarra has put an ENORMOUS amount of work into this... I cannot thank her enough for this.heartheartheart

    Wendy, I love the idea of a shortcut. Can you make a tut for it?  Doesn't need to be a vid... I like tuts like the old Winterbrose ones where he puts screen grabs right into a document then saves as a pdf. I can follow along much easier that way and it then tends to stick in my head better.  I did that with Misty's early work with Genesis 3.

    yes  Silene

     

     

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,168

    Boojum the brown bunny said:

        YAY!!!!   Thank you, thank you, Thank you!    Now I'm all happy!    I got Genesis 8 into Carrara, clothing, and rendered all without crashing!!!

    Great.  Hope you offer some tips as you experiment with G8 in Carrara.  Bunyip seems to have a workflow that takes advantage of almost everything.  I have gotten the G8 figures to load with morphs, poses, and materials.  The blneded clothing workflow for me preserves the clothing materials and pose/follow.  Unfortunately for me, unlike Bunyip, my blended clothing does not match the figure shaping morphs.  I will be following your progress with interest.  Hope it is more like Bunyip.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,564

    Personally, I find that Genesis Generation X2 (GenX2) is the Best way to use newer (up to Genesis 3) Genesis within Carrara - because Genesis 1 is very compatible with Carrara, and GenX2 gives us the Genesis 2 and 3 as well as generations 3 if we also get the add-ons. It took me a while, because it certainly wasn't free. But now I find it to be one of the best investments I've made in quite some time - although there have been other excellent ones too.

    Here's my first foray with GenX2

    And then just within the last week:

    This last one is nowhere near as honed as Rosie 5 was in the first one. I just decided to put something of a quick showcase together as an early timestamp so I can watch my own progress as I go.

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,564

    Also, the support pages linked in their descriptions have many details about how they're made

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    if only there was a way to copy the face rigging to gn1 and 2

    i remember some forum chat not liking the g2m pecs, but i really like the man boob to not be flat laugh

    reember danzig?  hubba bubba

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    i'm rendering my very very first 4k render.  i have never rendered larger than 2000 pixels.  just occurred how weird that is.  might try an 8k next.  will let it run o/n

    is weird, i have a 6 core and a 8 core, but i primarily use the 4 core, cuz its the quietest.  i cant sleep in the same room with the other machines.  gamer cases look kewl lit, but they noisy things.

  • Hi Dart,

    Do you know if the UV are transferred as well?

    There is no mention of it, so I suppose not, but who knows.

    Does it work for clothes?

    Dartanbeck said:

    Personally, I find that Genesis Generation X2 (GenX2) is the Best way to use newer (up to Genesis 3) Genesis within Carrara - because Genesis 1 is very compatible with Carrara, and GenX2 gives us the Genesis 2 and 3 as well as generations 3 if we also get the add-ons. It took me a while, because it certainly wasn't free. But now I find it to be one of the best investments I've made in quite some time - although there have been other excellent ones too.

    Here's my first foray with GenX2

    And then just within the last week:

    This last one is nowhere near as honed as Rosie 5 was in the first one. I just decided to put something of a quick showcase together as an early timestamp so I can watch my own progress as I go.

  • no not with GenX and Genesis 3&8 you cannot even use the DAZ studio map transfer, there are geograft solutions or use another texture baking method, I use Ultimate Unwrap3d repaint or Zprojection in Zbrush but Blender can do it too.

  • SileneUKSileneUK Posts: 1,975

    Rosie is looking more Alita-like now... love the big eyes!  heart  Silene

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,564

    Philemo - No, it doesn't work for clothes and it doesn't transfer UV mapping. There are other products for UV Map trnasfer, I think. I don't look because Genesis 1 already has so many to choose from.

    Silene - Rosie 5 has Much larger eyes than the new Rosie 5.5

    I decided to dial them back a bit. Well... her whole head shape is different, so I actually had to dial them up, but they're much smaller than cute little Rosie 5's huge eyes! :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    whatever happened to lightwave?

  • Steve KSteve K Posts: 3,234
    edited February 2021

    Mystiarra said:

    whatever happened to lightwave?

    I bought it many years ago (it came bundled with VUE as I recall) and kept up with the versions for a while.  Then Carrara's seamless use of Poser content made me switch.  More recently I won a copy of Lightwave, several versions newer than I had, but I don't use it.  I *might* if I find some killer Lightwave content that doesn't import easily & completely into Carrara, but I'm not looking for that, just shopping Carrara, Poser & Vue mostly, some OBJ ... 

    LW is a great program, but for my needs with a LOT of Poser content, not as good a fit as Carrara.

    Post edited by Steve K on
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