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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,113

    mding said:

    richardandtracy said:

    Well, that depends on what people regard as 'normal'. We have a 2CV (as per 3djoji's Teuf-Teuf), and we used to have a Merc Sprinter (as per Truform's Multi Purpose Van on Rendo). Admittedly we currently now also have a Merc Vito (no model I have found) and a Toyota Aygo (also not seen). So.. We (normal or otherwise) have some of our 'normal' vehicles available in DS.. 

    Apparently in the UK (don't know about elsewhere) SUV's are very popular with the Nissan Qashqai being the highest selling model in 2022 in the UK. So possibly SUV's are the new normal. 

    Regards,

    Richard

     

    Thanks  @richardandtracy!

    Yes, SUVs are the no 1 bestselling type of cars in Germany, too. And i am not saying there shouldn't be any new ones released here, of course, and same for the sports cars. Still, many non suv here begin to look more and more vintage imo, so why not also some new small / medium sized "non suvs" (to substitute the "normal")?

    My big thanks in this regard to PA GCJellyfish for 

    https://www.daz3d.com/zirael-flyte-hatchback-family-car

    Of course, if that doesn't sell, it might not be worth it for the PAs.

    ETA: Such a car model wouldn't have to be as perfect as the above, of course.

    I did my bit and have it in my runtime. The left and right hand drive options were a big feature for me.

    When a new vehicle shows up I look at it with an eye to would I see it in a driveway, city street, highway/motorway or pulling into a drive-through for a hamburger. Shopping for a week's groceries, hauling a group of boys to the beach or their game, or loading up with DIY items are also a thought. Not sure if we have seen bicycle racks or those able to carry wheelchairs, with or without motors on the rear bumpers. And while I don't do baby renders, a baby carseat to fit the back seat would be nice. Or those doggie harnesses that somehow hook onto the car. Bugsy just balanced in the front passenger seat as my shotgun, or jumped down into the footwell.

    Six figure luxury cars not my thing. 

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,243

    @memcneil70: Wow, those are nice extras i didn't even dare to think of, lol.

  • scorpioscorpio Posts: 8,415

    .... The left and right hand drive options were a big feature for me.

    ...

    It might help sales if they showed this in the promos I passed on it because I didn't realise it had both. No I don't always bother to read the blurb.

  • That's a nice looking car

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,393

    dortybassa said:

    Mr Bobble gets a Doctors coat but no one else for the entire G8 and G9 generations!

    https://www.daz3d.com/boffin-for-mister-bobble

    For some reason I bought Mr Bobble, so feel a duty to buy him the coat!

    IKR! Glad I am not the only one who A. Appreciated Mr. Bobble's Doctor's coat, but also B. Wondered why we don't have one for G8 and 9? There was a good one for G2, but don't know if it would survive everything it would take to convert it upwards.

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,361

    Gogger said:

    dortybassa said:

    Mr Bobble gets a Doctors coat but no one else for the entire G8 and G9 generations!

    https://www.daz3d.com/boffin-for-mister-bobble

    For some reason I bought Mr Bobble, so feel a duty to buy him the coat!

    IKR! Glad I am not the only one who A. Appreciated Mr. Bobble's Doctor's coat, but also B. Wondered why we don't have one for G8 and 9? There was a good one for G2, but don't know if it would survive everything it would take to convert it upwards.

    Of course the best solution would have been if Mr Bobble has been built off G8M (or G9), then all males would get his coat, and Mr Bobble would get a vastly greater wardrobe. I understand that some figures work better as standalone, but there are in fact more extreme toons available for the Genesis figures than Mr Bobble.

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,393

    mding said:

    meh a sportscar with editorial license.

    https://www.daz3d.com/nsx-r

    It might sell well, for pron producers, i understand, but how about normal non SUV cars with standard license?

    Surprised to see a straight-up Honda emblem on the hood - guaranteed that alone would garner the editorial license. That begs the question - if I edit that logo out and put in some other non-commercial logo would that negate the editorial license, or no?  - shrug -

  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,393

    Havos said:

    Gogger said:

    dortybassa said:

    Mr Bobble gets a Doctors coat but no one else for the entire G8 and G9 generations!

    https://www.daz3d.com/boffin-for-mister-bobble

    For some reason I bought Mr Bobble, so feel a duty to buy him the coat!

    IKR! Glad I am not the only one who A. Appreciated Mr. Bobble's Doctor's coat, but also B. Wondered why we don't have one for G8 and 9? There was a good one for G2, but don't know if it would survive everything it would take to convert it upwards.

    Of course the best solution would have been if Mr Bobble has been built off G8M (or G9), then all males would get his coat, and Mr Bobble would get a vastly greater wardrobe. I understand that some figures work better as standalone, but there are in fact more extreme toons available for the Genesis figures than Mr Bobble.

    I agree with you about using the Genesis forms for widest compatibility of poses, hair, clothes, etc. But I bought Mr. Bobble shortly after it came out because I needed it for a project and it was a perfect match to the stock art image I was trying to replicate with my own custom twists - otherwise I may not have picked it up specifically for the reason of not being commonly compatible with the rest of my huge DAZ library. (Mr. Bobble is still a GREAT product in its own right!)

  • mdingmding Posts: 1,243
    edited September 2023

    Gogger said:

    [...]if I edit that logo out and put in some other non-commercial logo would that negate the editorial license, or no? 

    I remember the mods answering such a question with a clear no, because even i you successfully changed the prop, you still would have bought only an editorial license. So you would still have to buy a standard license to use it accordingly. 

    Post edited by mding on
  • GoggerGogger Posts: 2,393

    mding said:

    Gogger said:

    [...]if I edit that logo out and put in some other non-commercial logo would that negate the editorial license, or no? 

    I remember the mods answering such a question with a clear no, because even i you successfully changed the prop, you still would have bought only an editorial license. So you would still have to buy a standard license to use it accordingly. 

    But there is no alternative license available - I guess that is partly where people are being so polarized against these. Well, I don't really have any skin in the game as I am not doing any commercial renders. But still, - speaking out of ignorance - just how hard would it be to offer an alternative version with standard license? I'll stop before this evolves into the age old, and overly done argument of "Why don't PA's providie flat-shoed alternates, SFW versions of outfits", etc etc. 

    All that said, I am buying the car in question because, $2.05, why not.

  • mding said:

    Gogger said:

    [...]if I edit that logo out and put in some other non-commercial logo would that negate the editorial license, or no? 

    I remember the mods answering such a question with a clear no, because even i you successfully changed the prop, you still would have bought only an editorial license. So you would still have to buy a standard license to use it accordingly. 

    Yes, that is correct.

  • TimbalesTimbales Posts: 2,332
    Havos said:

    Gogger said:

    dortybassa said:

    Mr Bobble gets a Doctors coat but no one else for the entire G8 and G9 generations!

    https://www.daz3d.com/boffin-for-mister-bobble

    For some reason I bought Mr Bobble, so feel a duty to buy him the coat!

    IKR! Glad I am not the only one who A. Appreciated Mr. Bobble's Doctor's coat, but also B. Wondered why we don't have one for G8 and 9? There was a good one for G2, but don't know if it would survive everything it would take to convert it upwards.

    Of course the best solution would have been if Mr Bobble has been built off G8M (or G9), then all males would get his coat, and Mr Bobble would get a vastly greater wardrobe. I understand that some figures work better as standalone, but there are in fact more extreme toons available for the Genesis figures than Mr Bobble.

    Mr Bobble would look great in G9 lingerie.
  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,326

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

  • Llola Lane said:

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

    Yep, I already put Mr. Connery in my cart. I don't even normally buy characters, except when buying bundles. 

  • NathNath Posts: 2,802

    paulawp (marahzen) said:

    Llola Lane said:

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

    Yep, I already put Mr. Connery in my cart. I don't even normally buy characters, except when buying bundles. 

    Heads-up: He has an editorial license. 

  • Nath said:

    paulawp (marahzen) said:

    Llola Lane said:

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

    Yep, I already put Mr. Connery in my cart. I don't even normally buy characters, except when buying bundles. 

    Heads-up: He has an editorial license. 

    Hmm, that is a bummer. Not that I would use any commercial character for anything other than a gallery post, I just don't like the principle.

  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,456

    Mr Connery is a must-have for me, with licence or without. Great likeness! I don't really like AlFan's other characters, but this is a masterpiece.

    Applause also for today's Golden Ticket! PW has given me a huge gift with this fantastic environment.

  • I don't blame them given the likeness

    one reason I avoid celebrity lookalikes

  • HavosHavos Posts: 5,361

    If anyone buys the Unforgettable Fiber Hair I would appreciate being able to see how it looks on a figure other than Sean Connery.

    Older male hair is pretty rare (and some of the few we have are massive on the poly count), so that interests me more than the character.

    I can see why the figure needs an editorial licence, but it is less clear why the hair and expressions need that licence as well, as used on any other character, they will be pretty generic.

  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,049

    Llola Lane said:

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

    Even guys are jealous of him along with Sam Elliott. 

  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,113
    edited September 2023

    I hope if they do a young version it is from the movie Darbie O'Gill and the Little People where he was 30 years old. I saw it as a seven year old.

     

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  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,113

    As I was printing out the promo pages from what I purchased, I noticed that all three items for Unforgettable have the Editorial License, figure, hair and expressions. And while they have been made for this figure and I am not sure how they will work on other characters, I not sure if the editorial license will apply if you used any of them on another character, even in small elements blended with others?

    Mary

  • memcneil70 said:

    As I was printing out the promo pages from what I purchased, I noticed that all three items for Unforgettable have the Editorial License, figure, hair and expressions. And while they have been made for this figure and I am not sure how they will work on other characters, I not sure if the editorial license will apply if you used any of them on another character, even in small elements blended with others?

    Mary

    The license terms will apply however they are used, using them with another character won't help (which is frustrating).

  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,369
    edited September 2023

    Havos said:

    If anyone buys the Unforgettable Fiber Hair I would appreciate being able to see how it looks on a figure other than Sean Connery.

    Older male hair is pretty rare (and some of the few we have are massive on the poly count), so that interests me more than the character.

    I can see why the figure needs an editorial licence, but it is less clear why the hair and expressions need that licence as well, as used on any other character, they will be pretty generic.

    I am not sure that you can (or should be able to) copyright an otherwise common hair style. I remember the situation with that other hair, but that one was distinctive and recognizeable in regard to a particular character. 

    Post edited by paulawp (marahzen) on
  • Thanks for the heads up on the editorial license for "Unforgetable".  DAZ needs to put disclaimers on the initial SHOP page itself because I put those directly into my cart without looking at the individual product pages because I instantly fell in love with the products.  I had to clear my cart.  If I hadn't browsed the forums I would have been stuck with products I can't use.  Even on the product page, the licensing is easy to miss, especially if you use the DAZ deals plugin which has a checkbox to hide the licensing.  (I didn't know it was enabled on my install so I had to return a few products that had editorial licensing.)  Better yet would be getting rid of this nightmare of licensing types and going back to only selling commercial use products.

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,326
    edited September 2023

    Nath said:

    paulawp (marahzen) said:

    Llola Lane said:

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

    Yep, I already put Mr. Connery in my cart. I don't even normally buy characters, except when buying bundles. 

    Heads-up: He has an editorial license. 

    Thanks for the heads up... I took him out of my cart :(  I don't understand the license .. and from what I DO understand we can't even use him for contests here at Daz.... so I'll not grab him... the hair... or the expressions  :(  Sorry Sean!

    Post edited by Llola Lane on
  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,326

    frank0314 said:

    Llola Lane said:

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

    Even guys are jealous of him along with Sam Elliott. 

    Sam does nothing for me... but I melt when I hear Sean's voice (butterrrrrrrrrrrrrrr)

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,003

    PW Cliff House | Daz 3D   a nice one that is regular $60 and now Golden Ticket for $2.99? It even has a toilet with a set and lid. Just that toilet alone would be worth more than $2.99

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,326

    daveso said:

    PW Cliff House | Daz 3D   a nice one that is regular $60 and now Golden Ticket for $2.99? It even has a toilet with a set and lid. Just that toilet alone would be worth more than $2.99

    Ha... I agree.. but I'm staying out of the toilet seat/lid conversation cause there's another whole thread with that topic being discussed... LOL

  • Llola Lane said:

    Nath said:

    paulawp (marahzen) said:

    Llola Lane said:

    Hummmmmmm... Sean Connery has always been my heart throb at any age!  I hope he doesn't mind if I 'grab'em whilst he's hot!  lol

    Yep, I already put Mr. Connery in my cart. I don't even normally buy characters, except when buying bundles. 

    Heads-up: He has an editorial license. 

    Thanks for the heads up... I took him out of my cart :(  I don't understand the license .. and from what I DO understand we can't even use him for contests here at Daz.... so I'll not grab him... the hair... or the expressions  :(  Sorry Sean!

    Sadly, after much consideration, I too am removing these items. I am currently not aiming to make money off this hobby. Frankly, at present, I'm buying too much stuff to even have time to make art for fun. OK, seriously, though, I am working on a book series, and what if I unthinkingly used one of those hair items in an illustration that sees the light of day? IRL, I cross paths with IP law enough to know that it's a beast, and I don't want any part of that. 

    Sad. The stuff looks beautiful.

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