Male and Female Anatomical Elements maps for G9 - Which Figures Have Them?

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  • leo04leo04 Posts: 337

    Is there any program or addon or some way to make Gens UV maps for the new anatomical elements that are available for Genesis 9?  I have always had this problem because I make custom skins for some of my characters using Skin Builders, which do not address this issue.  Seems that if someone were to make a utlity that could take an existing or custom skin and make a gens map, for either gender, they might make a tidy sum on it.

    Just thinking out load on that.

    If anyone does know of a process or some program or utility that is available please let me know.  (Privately, I don't think anyone is permitted to endorse or recommend stuff in the open here). By the way please keep it simple, I don't have things like Adobe, (costs to much).  I do have the CorelDraw suite, and I have been using that for years.

    Thanks.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,081

    my characters all wear pants so no textures needed. Keeps life simple. 

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,472

    leo04 said:

    Is there any program or addon or some way to make Gens UV maps for the new anatomical elements that are available for Genesis 9?  I have always had this problem because I make custom skins for some of my characters using Skin Builders, which do not address this issue.  Seems that if someone were to make a utlity that could take an existing or custom skin and make a gens map, for either gender, they might make a tidy sum on it.

    Just thinking out load on that.

    If anyone does know of a process or some program or utility that is available please let me know.  (Privately, I don't think anyone is permitted to endorse or recommend stuff in the open here). By the way please keep it simple, I don't have things like Adobe, (costs to much).  I do have the CorelDraw suite, and I have been using that for years.

    Thanks.

    I made some freebies when they was new, where the anatomical elements uses the body materials.

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/598936/alternativ-uv-map-for-g9-female-anatomical-elements

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/601056/alternativ-uv-map-for-g9-male-anatomical-elements

    Works best for females as the gens better match the body area, but still useable for men, they just have much less texture resolution on some parts.

  • franky85franky85 Posts: 136
    edited March 19

    leo04 said:

    Is there any program or addon or some way to make Gens UV maps for the new anatomical elements that are available for Genesis 9?  I have always had this problem because I make custom skins for some of my characters using Skin Builders, which do not address this issue.  Seems that if someone were to make a utlity that could take an existing or custom skin and make a gens map, for either gender, they might make a tidy sum on it.

    Just thinking out load on that.

    If anyone does know of a process or some program or utility that is available please let me know.  (Privately, I don't think anyone is permitted to endorse or recommend stuff in the open here). By the way please keep it simple, I don't have things like Adobe, (costs to much).  I do have the CorelDraw suite, and I have been using that for years.

    Thanks.

    You can use the custom UV map mentionned above, or, for female gens (does not create male anatomy) you can do this to create the maps - no extras required :

    1) Go in the Map Transfer utility from the surfaces tab

    2) Create a Template (right-click the templates section) and drag the Body from the right pane onto the new template and

    3) Pick Genital Map Bake

    4) Might vary, but for me the textures are output on %appdata%\DAZ 3D\Studio4\temp\textureConvert

    Screenshot 2024-03-19 143959.png
    308 x 341 - 18K
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    823 x 793 - 57K
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  • QuasarQuasar Posts: 641
    edited March 19

    sidneybrown said:

    FSMCDesigns said:

    It's probably just the core DAZ characters that have both. I asked why PAs are not including both in another thread and was told  that it was too much work which i disagree with. Some PAs are not including any genital textures with their figures which keeps me from buying from them. I was actually interested in the last two genesis 9 characters from Kooki99, but there don't appear to be any genital textures, so they are useless for my projects.

    I'm totally new to DAZ, but what I'm finding (lot's of $$$ later) is that even though the "parts" are painted on the texture, there's no mesh for them, is that the case with ALL DAZ models? If so, I'll just trade my time for the money spent and make my own.

    For Genesis 9 anatomical elements geometry, you need Genesis 9 Starter Essentials Expansion. For previous generations of Genesis, you need the buy one of the Daz characters that come in a pro bundle.

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,107

    sidneybrown said:

    I'm totally new to DAZ, but what I'm finding (lot's of $$$ later) is that even though the "parts" are painted on the texture, there's no mesh for them, is that the case with ALL DAZ models? If so, I'll just trade my time for the money spent and make my own.

    Genitals have never been part of the base figure. For Genesis 9, the geometry is in the Starter Essentials Expansion; in previous generations, one had to buy a pro bundle of an adult human (non-toon) figure to get gens.

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,107

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I myself am quite happy for my cisgender boys to wear makeup and dresses like they did right up to and during the Renaissance and Baroque periods before the Victorian age made every one boring AF

    it's not even a gender or sexual orientation issue, it's people being able to express themselves without being confined to imposed cultural norms

    It IS a gender issue, though, in the sense that makeup and dresses are outside of contemporary gender norms for men even though neither is intrinsically "feminine". That's the inherent problem with the construction of gender.

  • riftwitchriftwitch Posts: 1,405
    edited March 19

    PerttiA said:

    If one has New Gens, one doesn't even have to wonder about textures as they are made on the fly when appying to the figure. If there only was as simple solution for the male gens.

    There is a solution for male gens, It's also available on the adult site that I can't mention here. The vendor's name is Meipe. There are verions for G3M, G8M, and G9. Also versions for G3F and G8F, with a different name. All of them have a script that copies the skin texture to the gens geograft. I have several of them, and they work very well.

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  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,455

    Gordig said:

    WendyLuvsCatz said:

    well I myself am quite happy for my cisgender boys to wear makeup and dresses like they did right up to and during the Renaissance and Baroque periods before the Victorian age made every one boring AF

    it's not even a gender or sexual orientation issue, it's people being able to express themselves without being confined to imposed cultural norms

    It IS a gender issue, though, in the sense that makeup and dresses are outside of contemporary gender norms for men even though neither is intrinsically "feminine". That's the inherent problem with the construction of gender.

    I want to say that I appreciate that both you, Gordig and WendyLuvsCatz, are using the terms, "sex" and "gender", correctly.  When i took my oral exam in grad school, my advisor's advisor was on my commitee; he brought along heis wife who was a noted sex researcher who studied an Central American population that had a late maturing testosterone receptor so that all children in the region were born "girls" and then differentiated into "boys" and "girls" at puberty.  Each child was given a feminine name at birth and renamed at puberty.  She then regailed us with a discussion about how the sex determination tests at the Olympics were doomed to failure (they have quietly given up the ghost and now use a hazy hormone standards system with its own problems of unscientific methodology). Everyone then launched into their favorite orals questions; my advisor always asks the candidate to name five women who had won Nobel prizes in the sciences

  • Blacky13Blacky13 Posts: 71

    Are there any tutorials anywhere on how to make gens maps for characters that don't include them? I just bought KOO Sylvia HD and it doesn't include any gens maps, but I need them for a commission I'm working on. The maps in general are great and the figure has the build I need for the character, but the client wants them gens!

     

    -Thanks in advance!

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,409
    edited December 2

    sidneybrown said:

    I'm totally new to DAZ, but what I'm finding (lot's of $$$ later) is that even though the "parts" are painted on the texture, there's no mesh for them, is that the case with ALL DAZ models? If so, I'll just trade my time for the money spent and make my own.

    Ok. Before G8.1, mostly need a pro bundle for an adult character to get geograft of anatomical details - Minors in daz-world have no parts. 8.1: select characters come with parts. Don't recall which ones, though I have the parts. G9 parts are in https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-starter-essentials-expansion .

    And I'm late to the party. Oh well.

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  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,409

    bluejaunte said:

    Why would I give my girls a penis texture? What are you naughty people doing laugh

    I suppose it goes along with the idea that a G9 female could also have a male alternate & vice versa, but all signs say doing this greatly increases the workload for making the character and likely for little or no reward. Some ppl are certainly doing naughty things. devil

  • nemesis10nemesis10 Posts: 3,455

    What i have done is use a product like https://www.daz3d.com/cgi-secret-materials-for-genesis-9-merchant-resources:

    1. I find the texture files for a given figure in the Runtime>Textures> Vendor>Character folder and Copy them to a new folder on my computer 
    2. I open the torso texture in my image processor, and place the appropriate secret materials texture on another layer above it.
    3. I increase the canvas size and rescale the torso texture so that details like pores and stuff are at the right scale.
    4. I use the color match feature of my image processor that matches the color of the torso to the secret materials  and do some additional adjusts of that layer in contrast, saturation and levels.
    5. I save that layer in a new folder and repeat for other textures like normals etc.
    6. I save the torso texture as a shader in the final folder.
    7. I load the figure and anatomy and apply the torso shader to the anatomy.
    8. I replace each texture with my new outputted and color adjusted secret materials. do a quick render and save the whole thing as a mat to apply anytime I like.
  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,659

    I think some of the anime toon figures have elements, which so far breaks the rule that they are for non-toon characters. I know Mikey and Vicky have them. 

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