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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,243

    Are the Horse manes and tails posed by the poses in https://www.daz3d.com/da-wrangler-poses-for-daz-horse-3-and-genesis-9 ?

  • Design Anvil - Razor42Design Anvil - Razor42 Posts: 1,237
    edited March 2023

    barbult said:

    Are the Horse manes and tails posed by the poses in https://www.daz3d.com/da-wrangler-poses-for-daz-horse-3-and-genesis-9 ?

    No sorry, there is no specific mane or tail data with this set. Just Horse 3 Poses and Horse 3 and Genesis 9 heirarchical poses.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,243

    Design Anvil - Razor42 said:

    barbult said:

    Are the Horse manes and tails posed by the poses in https://www.daz3d.com/da-wrangler-poses-for-daz-horse-3-and-genesis-9 ?

    No sorry, there is no specific mane or tail data with this set. Just Horse 3 Poses and Horse 3 and Genesis 9 heirarchical poses.

    Thank you for clarifying so quickly. The product description says "Full-Body Horse 3 Poses", but I was not sure whether that included the hair or not, since hair was shown posed in every promo image. I find the promo images misleading in that regard. It is disappointing that mane and tail poses are not included, because you did a great job on them. I imagine the Horse would look quite different in those poses with the default mane and tail simulation.

  • Design Anvil - Razor42Design Anvil - Razor42 Posts: 1,237
    edited March 2023

    No problem, there isn't any hair poses as such in the promos, just the dforce simulation and hair surface settings which is probably what you are talking about. I am working on a set of Dforce hair presets for the Horse 3 that include various colors, style presets, simulation settings and a few morph settings for the mane and other hair pieces. I couldn't help but use some of the settings in the Wrangler pose promos, so apologies if it felt misleading in any way, that never was my intention. The set should be ready 'soonish' and was beyond the scope of a straight forward pose set.

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  • Ryuu@AMcCFRyuu@AMcCF Posts: 668

    bytescapes said:

    memcneil70 said:

    Sleipnir could be used for SciFi on another planet. And for Odin.

    Another fun fact about Sleipnir; he's the child of the god Loki, who had sex with the stallion Sva∂ilfari and later gave birth to an eight-legged horse (as one does). Sleipnir is not the oddest of Loki's children: he also fathered the death-goddess Hel, the monstrous wolf Fenrir, and the world-serpent Jörmungandr.

    Moral: if you have sex with Loki (and if you take Loki's word for it, pretty much everyone did), you should absolutely use protection.

    Thor: "Did I not mention that Loki was adopted? frown"

  • miladyderyni_173d399f47miladyderyni_173d399f47 Posts: 1,747

    Ryuu@AMcCF said:

    bytescapes said:

    memcneil70 said:

    Sleipnir could be used for SciFi on another planet. And for Odin.

    Another fun fact about Sleipnir; he's the child of the god Loki, who had sex with the stallion Sva∂ilfari and later gave birth to an eight-legged horse (as one does). Sleipnir is not the oddest of Loki's children: he also fathered the death-goddess Hel, the monstrous wolf Fenrir, and the world-serpent Jörmungandr.

    Moral: if you have sex with Loki (and if you take Loki's word for it, pretty much everyone did), you should absolutely use protection.

    Thor: "Did I not mention that Loki was adopted? frown

     

    I am adopted so that is my favorite line!

    Loki, on Zeus and his affairs: Hold my Mead!!!

     

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    Design Anvil - Razor42 said:

    A quick render of Daz Horse 3.

    That looks great except the fur looks a bit too much like carpet.

  • Design Anvil - Razor42Design Anvil - Razor42 Posts: 1,237
    edited March 2023

    nonesuch00 said:

    Design Anvil - Razor42 said:

    A quick render of Daz Horse 3.

     

    That looks great except the fur looks a bit too much like carpet.

    Lol, I guess you could lower the Bump/Normal settings and decrease the Glossy roughness if you prefer a slicker look. 

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  • ScarecrowScarecrow Posts: 170

     I got interested when I saw Daz Horse 3 had been released. Then I looked at the promo images and I was like "Are you kidding me?" It looks terrible. Horse 2 looks much better, I'll stick with that for now.

  • Thadeus72Thadeus72 Posts: 409

    hi

    how to use genesis 9 with horse 3 in da wrangler pose

    the horse take the pose , genesis 9 not ..

     

    thanks in advance

     

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,842

    Thadeus72 said:

    hi

    how to use genesis 9 with horse 3 in da wrangler pose

    the horse take the pose , genesis 9 not ..

     

    thanks in advance

    Check the readme, available by clicking the i icon in Install Manager or by right-click on the product and select More Information in Daz studio - I beleive the human needs to be parented to the horse's hip.

  • Design Anvil - Razor42Design Anvil - Razor42 Posts: 1,237
    edited March 2023

    Thadeus72 said:

    hi

    how to use genesis 9 with horse 3 in da wrangler pose

    the horse take the pose , genesis 9 not ..

     

    thanks in advance

     

    For this set Genesis 9 should be parented to the Abdomen node of Horse 3. There is an included wearable but this only works when loading a new genesis 9 into the scene.

    Generally, it is the hip like Richard mentioned. But I found on with Horse 3 that the Abdomen gave better compatability with other poses.

     

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  • Thadeus72Thadeus72 Posts: 409
    edited March 2023

    Design Anvil - Razor42 said:

    Thadeus72 said:

    hi

    how to use genesis 9 with horse 3 in da wrangler pose

    the horse take the pose , genesis 9 not ..

     

    thanks in advance

     

    For this set Genesis 9 should be parented to the Abdomen node of Horse 3. There is an included wearable but this only works when loading a new genesis 9 into the scene.

    Generally, it is the hip like Richard mentioned. But I found on with Horse 3 that the Abdomen gave better compatability with other poses.

    thanks richard and design anvil for your help

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  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,370
    edited March 2023

    More experimentation with Daz Horse 3.

     

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  • ZippyGuitarZippyGuitar Posts: 845
    edited April 2023

    So does anyone have an idea of why the reins and halter from the Mongolian Horse Armor ( https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mongolian-style-horse-armor-for-daz-horse-3 ) is deforming badly in the image below? I discovered the issue by accident while applying morphs to the horse and saw something push out of its mouth and jaw. At first I thought it was the teeth and tongue deforming. Yeah I don't need the mouth to open all the way, but just a slight mouth open adjustment caused this issue. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, so I loaded a new horse and the Wearable Preset of Mongolian armor but the issue was still there. Thanks for any help, folks. I suppose I'll have to fill out a support ticket, but...eh. I'll bite my tongue for now. :p 

    EDIT: so the reins and halters from all of the Horse 3 armor sets are doing this just not the extreme the Mongolian set does.  Correction, it's just the Mongolian and Elf armor sets...

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  • Catherine3678abCatherine3678ab Posts: 8,339

    ZippyGuitar said:

    So does anyone have an idea of why the reins and halter from the Mongolian Horse Armor ( https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mongolian-style-horse-armor-for-daz-horse-3 ) is deforming badly in the image below? I discovered the issue by accident while applying morphs to the horse and saw something push out of its mouth and jaw. At first I thought it was the teeth and tongue deforming. Yeah I don't need the mouth to open all the way, but just a slight mouth open adjustment caused this issue. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, so I loaded a new horse and the Wearable Preset of Mongolian armor but the issue was still there. Thanks for any help, folks. I suppose I'll have to fill out a support ticket, but...eh. I'll bite my tongue for now. :p 

    EDIT: so the reins and halters from all of the Horse 3 armor sets are doing this just not the extreme the Mongolian set does.  Correction, it's just the Mongolian and Elf armor sets...

    Support ticket time for sure. Some correction morphs could fix that issue.

  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,370

    ZippyGuitar said:

    So does anyone have an idea of why the reins and halter from the Mongolian Horse Armor ( https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-mongolian-style-horse-armor-for-daz-horse-3 ) is deforming badly in the image below? I discovered the issue by accident while applying morphs to the horse and saw something push out of its mouth and jaw. At first I thought it was the teeth and tongue deforming. Yeah I don't need the mouth to open all the way, but just a slight mouth open adjustment caused this issue. I thought maybe I was doing something wrong, so I loaded a new horse and the Wearable Preset of Mongolian armor but the issue was still there. Thanks for any help, folks. I suppose I'll have to fill out a support ticket, but...eh. I'll bite my tongue for now. :p 

    EDIT: so the reins and halters from all of the Horse 3 armor sets are doing this just not the extreme the Mongolian set does.  Correction, it's just the Mongolian and Elf armor sets...

    Confirming that I see similar with the Mongolian set, which I was coincidentally just about to test this evening with the texture expansion. Just opening the mouth will get some weird behavior with the bit and lower reins. 

  • ZippyGuitarZippyGuitar Posts: 845
    edited April 2023

    Apologies for the late response. Thank you both for your comments. I have submitted a ticket this evening. 

     

    And paulawp, I accidentally clicked on your Daz Gallery link thinking Daz was providing a link to my gallery which is nonexistent. Your gallery was an absolute joy to stroll through. Truly, beautiful work!

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  • paulawp (marahzen)paulawp (marahzen) Posts: 1,370
    edited April 2023

    ZippyGuitar said:

    Apologies for the late response. Thank you both for your comments. I have submitted a ticket this evening. 

     

    And paulawp, I accidentally clicked on your Daz Gallery link thinking Daz was providing a link to my gallery which is nonexistent. Your gallery was an absolute joy to stroll through. Truly, beautiful work!

    Why, thank you, kind internet stranger! :)  I'm getting up on two years since I started my journey of trying to learn to use Daz and try my best to do interesting things with it. The book I am working on is set in a horse-powered place and time, so learning to use the Daz Horse in its various forms has been a front-and-center project for me.

    Post edited by paulawp (marahzen) on
  • DreamWeeverDreamWeever Posts: 175

    Hey so I just decided to bite the bullet and pick up the new horse to see if it really was as bad as my first impression. 

    What has brought me here right now though is a problem I have spotted with the includes poses and I was wondering if anyone else has had this or if its just me.

    I am getting odd and bad distortions on te joints when bent, I have just used the laying down pose here to show you but it was happening on most of the included poses. 

    However the poses from the Free Spirit pack seem to be fine 

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