How do I force a wardrobe object to inherit the morphs of it's parent figure?

left1000left1000 Posts: 43

How do I force a wardrobe object to inherit the morphs of it's parent figure? Yes, 100s of people have written "it's on by default don't worry." But that doesn't answer my question does it?

I've noticed that for things like shirts and pants it is always on, and always working. I've checked them by showing hidden properties and then seeing all the morphs inherited from the parent figure. When is it off? Most bra's appear to have this off. How do I know? I checked the hidden properties (on the parmeters pane) and it's got 0 morphs from the base figure.
The genesis 8 starter basic bra has auto-follow-transforms set to on. But most alternative bras purchased elsewhere do not appear to have this setting exist AT ALL.

Why do I care? All the bras have smoothing modifier on. The basic genesis 8 bra is a nearly perfect fit due to the hidden property inherited morphs from the parent figure. This means you get a noticeable nipple outline. Some random other bras I've got? They're an awful fit before the smoothing, then they smoothing over the nipple, tent the bra, and leave no noticeable nipple outline.
But clothing objects inheriting morphs from their parent figure is a basic feature in daz3d, so surely for these objects where this feature is disabled, there must be an easy way to re-enable it? In some menu I don't know about?

Please help.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,990

    Unless the item has a Rigidity group then it will follow the morphs on items it is fitted to - if it doesn't have built-in support for a shape then Daz Studio will project a morph based on keeping the fitted item at the same distance from the morphed shape as it was from the original. However, these projected morphs will be hidden so you will not, by default, see them if you select the fitted item and check its Parameters. If you open the Parameters pane option menu (the lined/hamburger button in the top corner, or right-click the tab) and enable Preferences>Show Hidden Properties you will see them.

  • left1000left1000 Posts: 43
    edited March 2023

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Unless the item has a Rigidity group then it will follow the morphs on items it is fitted to - if it doesn't have built-in support for a shape then Daz Studio will project a morph based on keeping the fitted item at the same distance from the morphed shape as it was from the original. However, these projected morphs will be hidden so you will not, by default, see them if you select the fitted item and check its Parameters. If you open the Parameters pane option menu (the lined/hamburger button in the top corner, or right-click the tab) and enable Preferences>Show Hidden Properties you will see them.

    I specifically said I opened the parameters and set it to show hidden properties. The object (most of my bras) have no morphs that are hidden properties.

    The bra is not having any morphs projected onto it, I have no clue why. I don't know what a rigidity group is. I guess I can try to figure out what a rigidity group is.
    My guess is this menu would show a rigidity group if it existed?

    From what I can tell bra's who do not inherit morphs from their figure, don't have any unique rigidity group that is causing the problem. In some other way the morph inheriting feature is just toggled off. I do not think it's rigidity map related. I also think this is intentional, like I said, a stiff bra wouldn't show nipple outlines.

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  • left1000left1000 Posts: 43
    edited March 2023

    I figured out what was wrong! I was looking at hidden properties on the parameters pane as currently used. If I am on all they show up. They're all at 0% because the inheriting is off, but I can just manually sift through the list and crank up the ones I need.

    Sorry for being such a jerk. Shame that the basic wear bra is so much better at inheriting shapes than random 3rd party bras.

    I also figured out what's different between the gen8 starter bra and the renderorsity bra that required so much extra work to get a nipple outline....  the bra I was looking at was low polygon compared to the basic essentials bra, so I guess it's just common for PA assets to be less good than even the default ones sometimes. That's why the smoothing can't show case the nipple outline in my scene where I'm testing that right now.

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