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yeah the 4X interpolation, Video Stable Diffusion which I used only does 6FPS so not many to work wiith
Been happening for years now, except the technicians now realise that the entities are pretending to be the dead. If you're interested, look into D-Wave and quantum computing.
I will say AI killed it all for me.
I was pretty deep into this. (I have the library and receipts to prove it :P).
But my last purchase was three years ago. My last render not too far behind.
A pity too. This was a super fun hobby and community, for the most part.
I loved learning new things. I loved the articles and tutorials. I loved the progression.
I didn't really think of myself as an artist. More like a collage of light and forms.
But then AI came along. Spewing forth digital froth at an alarming rate.
I tried to fight through it. I tried to find my place in it. I tried to use it. I tried to ignore it.
AI was progressing, not me. AI was learning, not me. So much more. The small 3D communities are all gone. Boarded up ghost towns holding shadows of complaints and echoes.
In the end, I lost all passion for this medium. I don't even look at digital art anymore. Where once there used to be people, meaning and effort behind everything. Now I find no one, no thing and no soul.
It is all just a blur.
AI killed 3D for me. The Internet is not far behind.
But, in hindsight... it was fun. I enjoyed the time while it was there.
All the best!
I definitely hear ya on that one... I spent much of 2024 working with AI, and made two new year's resolutions this year:
1) Less AI. More 3D.
2) Learn Blender, damnit.
I completed a Minecraft tutorial by CG Fast Track a couple weeks ago and am still working on my muscle memory for the more advanced sections of the exercise.
AI was progressing, not me. AI was learning, not me. So much more.
I remember seeing this reaction a lot when AI first started reaching the point of creating "better" images than many traditional artists.
It felt... almost like a competition...and while a group was continually saying AI was souless and every other bad adjective, AI generated stuffs was winning art contests and fooling everyone. lol
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I've always had two concerns with AI use that
1) Someone doesn't become the thing that AI fools us into believing they are. Someone can make a hundred incredible AI-generated oil paintings. No matter how awesome they look, that person is NOT a painter. THEY are not a Digital Painter.
The word painter will never be applied. Even if the picture looks realistic and picture perfect, THEY are not a photographer. etc
2) Someone does not get the transformative benefit of the journey. The experience of creating something changes a person. A person thinks differently. Their perspective changes. The analogy is - imagine being from a country and having travelled across your own country- and you're arguing about your country with someone- who only visited on vacation and stayed at a resort and someone else who's never been there. But they are damn sure they know all about your country- even better than you - who lives there. And they say things like "I googled... so I know...someone told me....so I know.....".
For people that were advanced before AI (use) arrived, they'll be fine. They already had their journey. For most, AI is that helper- extra boost/sauce/time saver/productivity enhancer/inspiration/blueprint/upscaler/filter/add on.
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Making scenes in Daz is about as close to living it as someone can get. THEY are physically (virtually, some might know what I mean) moving objects around. Spinning the camera around, looking for the best angle...changing subtle things.
Leaning back, rubbing their chin thinking - hmmm, what would make this better? That's actually the moment THEY are tapping in to their inner artist. That's the moment they are suppoosed to live for. The challenge- how far can they go before that dForce dress explodes? How do they capture this moment that is beyond any product in any store? The pride they feel when they use a new tool and now they have unlocked a new skill and ability.
Once the render is complete that immersive 3D world is gone. They are now a person who made a picture. They can use a lot of tools to make pictures. I thought we picked 3D because of HOW you make pictures.
It's the old respect from the tools and method thing. I spent years hearing people tell me how Daz (and Poser) worked who never used either. I have seen people write/say "He must have..." and guess wrong about what I do...
You know who knows? We know. They know. And sometimes what They know is more important than what they think.
If someone's goal was to have pictures, I can see how AI killed the 3D Star because it does make pictures pretty well and very fast.
If the goal was to be an artist who makes pictures (using Daz Studio and who knows what else) -that's an endless journey with no real destination- except to make the next render better than the last.
That is a super job, and a lot of work.
That is beautiful and impressive, @WendyLuvsCatz
I have a similar idea to recreate my members of my family from the past,
If anything killed the 3D star for me, it's not AI, it's the hardware requirements and my own DAZ library.
To put it bluntly, I get 99% close to the image I want if I drew it myself. My imagination has it all, but the pre-established databases AI or what's available for DS, never have what I want. Because of hardware requirements, I cannot build my own assests either. It's less work and less time to sketch stuff on paper and clean it up with GIMP.
But AI has gotten me back into DAZ since I like mixing my renders with it. Not the same as making art from scratch, but I enjoy it nonetheless. I like being involved in my creations. Another thing that's gotten me back into DAZ is Filatoon, but that's another topic.
I am planning a LoRa of my Mum next
going through and digitizing photographs is the tedious part
Great thought provoking thread!
AI has scratched the adult coloring book in me.. fixing images and adding my own bling to them... I still love doing raw sketches using pencil and paper
Man, I can so relate to that. I have always strived to make the most realistic images I could with 3D, especially creating images with more than one character and vast environments and so hated having to purchase new PC equipment, jumping thru hoops like using scene optimizer, dealing with PAs that create amazing looking environments that don't take into account adding figures, clothing, hair, etc into the a scene which then makes them almost impossible to render at that point, or having to go without HD and high subD. With AI, I don't have to worry as much about that any more and can focus on creating and not troubleshooting and cutting corners to make the scene render. Sad thing is, ithe hardwre requirements go up and up with each new DS release.
Question:
We already have a dedicated part of the forum for NFTs. Isn't it time for a dedicated AI part in the forum, for all those who rather let AI make their work (as a tool ofc)...
https://www.daz3d.com/forums/categories/daz-ai-studio - but this thread was older, as I recall.
and not limited to using DAZ-Ai
there is also a thread in Art Studio I frequent https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/591121/remixing-your-art-with-ai
IMHO this thread is not just about AI though. It presents opinions relative to why people might or might not be moving from 3D to AI. I felt my post with my recent experience was relevant in the discussion since right now using DS is quite difficult for me due to vision issues and the tiny fonts and poor contrast in the DS interface. AI has enabled me to continue to be creative and explore new things even though DS is more of an exercise in frustration than creation, and likely will be that way for several more weeks (plus many other activities are also rather limited right now, it's definitely better than sitting and staring at the back of my eyelids). Anyone else with similar issues might find it helpful.
I think this thread has also provided a civil discussion that might help those unfamiliar with AI to help them understand where AI might fit into their work.