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  • HyeVltg3HyeVltg3 Posts: 87

    crosswind said:

    HyeVltg3 said:

    I finally decided to update and DIM is stuck at Retry.

    How can I update to the Pubilc Build, I tried to close and reopen DIM and tried to remove the "Ready to Install" item and re-download, but it keeps getting stuck at this Retry.

    Sometimes I have the same issue... after waiting for hours, it works again.

    Thanks for the input. Found out that it was because the connection to the drive was weak/faulty (DIM saves all Downloads to a network path) 

  • swbfvdswbfvd Posts: 30
    edited September 10

    After the update today my DAZ looks not correct, has anyone else had this happen? Is this a glitch or just what the new update looks like, is there anyway to make it look normal again?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I fixed it. I guess I updated DAZ while it was still running in the background and it became corrupted. I uninstalled and reinstalled, now it looks normal.
     

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  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,518

    swbfvd said:

    After the update today my DAZ looks not correct, has anyone else had this happen? Is this a glitch or just what the new update looks like, is there anyway to make it look normal again?

    It looks like you installed it while Daz Studio was running. Make sure it is not running, uninstall and reinstall.

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,200

    swbfvd said:

    After the update today my DAZ looks not correct, has anyone else had this happen? Is this a glitch or just what the new update looks like, is there anyway to make it look normal again?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I fixed it. I guess I updated DAZ while it was still running in the background and it became corrupted. I uninstalled and reinstalled, now it looks normal.
     

    To avoid this you can set the file layout.dsx as "read only". This way, even after the most disastrous event, your interface will be as you left it.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,564

    Imago said:

    swbfvd said:

    After the update today my DAZ looks not correct, has anyone else had this happen? Is this a glitch or just what the new update looks like, is there anyway to make it look normal again?

    EDIT: Nevermind, I fixed it. I guess I updated DAZ while it was still running in the background and it became corrupted. I uninstalled and reinstalled, now it looks normal.
     

    To avoid this you can set the file layout.dsx as "read only". This way, even after the most disastrous event, your interface will be as you left it.

    But yiu won't be able to make any changes yourself or take necessary chnages to enable new featuers. Better to save it (Window>Workspace>Save Layout) and/or back it up.

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,200

    Richard Haseltine said:

    But yiu won't be able to make any changes yourself or take necessary chnages to enable new featuers. Better to save it (Window>Workspace>Save Layout) and/or back it up.

    Isn't enough to disable the "read only", make the changes and then set it again to "read only"?  cool

    Also that "Save Layout" never worked fine for me. Every time I use that, even if I saved and set everything properly, my interface got all mixed up.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,564

    Imago said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    But yiu won't be able to make any changes yourself or take necessary chnages to enable new featuers. Better to save it (Window>Workspace>Save Layout) and/or back it up.

    Isn't enough to disable the "read only", make the changes and then set it again to "read only"?  cool

    Also that "Save Layout" never worked fine for me. Every time I use that, even if I saved and set everything properly, my interface got all mixed up.

    Don't forget that the issue here, with the whited out UI, is with the style files not the layout.

  • jbowlerjbowler Posts: 794

    Imago said:

    If I select a keyframe on the very last frame of the range, I can't unselect it until I move it on any other location.

    That's always been the case; nothing new.  The work-round (selecting something else) doesn't always work either; specifically it only works if you select something *not* on the last frame.  If you select something on the last frame something really weird happens, I've not got to the bottom of it.

    I did report this years ago.

  • jbowlerjbowler Posts: 794

    Imago said:

    I tried what you suggested but still doesn't work for me. Set the total to 71, still the last keyframe is always, constantly selected whatever I do.

    That's not what @crosswind meant: you can make the "last" frame not, in fact, be the "last" frame by adding 1 to the total frames (so the last frame 70 becomes the second to last now the last is 71) and NEVER using the last frame.  So far as I can tell this works however many frames you have (so it works if there is no way of distinguishing on the screen between the "last" and "last but one" frame.)

    This "work round that isn't a work round" also always worked.

  • jbowlerjbowler Posts: 794
    edited September 11

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Not a bug per se, as explained in the change log.

    I.e it is explained here:

    [Body is 10071 characters too long]

    This is completely ridiculous.  DAZ needs to revert to 4.22.1.161 and it needs to happen yesterday.

    Oh, and the boot time has been descending into the pits of hades and is now one minute.  How on earth can it take a modern computer program on a modern (a few years old but still modern) a whole minute to start up?  Early 4.21 and, IRC 4.22, versions did not.  Yes, it takes 1 minute from the start until the annoying bo-bomb I need to copy a file beep (it does not, in fact, do what it says it is going to do but doing it does not help!)

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,423

    Yes, it is pretty slow to start up these days.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,339
    Though it doesn't take 1 min to open DS PB on my side, it's noticeable slower than previous versions. When loading a saved Layout, it's also slower.
  • Dolce SaitoDolce Saito Posts: 193
    edited September 12

    I noticed for a while with a few of the latest beta versions already that "Image Series" render has a race condition with "Applying Mesh Smoother" stage.

    If it loses the race, the render output is without smoothing for the particular object(s) that took too long for filter to apply.

    Does anybody else notice this behavior?

    The current workaround is to render each frame separately, waiting "Applying Mesh Smoother" status text to disappear before hitting "Render".

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  • Eustace ScrubbEustace Scrubb Posts: 2,701

    Eustace Scrubb said:

    memcneil70 said:

    Eustace Scrubb said:

    I upgraded to the latest Beta tonight, and as soon as I did so, my shaders quit working.  Certain of my homebrewed ShaderMixer toon shaders render in 3Delight anymore, which is a problem, since that's my primary render engine, and these are the main shaders I use.  All I get is a white silhouette whenever I render with them, although Iray shaders, and certain other (non-toon) 3DL shaders work just fine.  Is anyone else having this sort of trouble?  And how do I revert it a stage to the prior install--if that would even work?

    I tested a variety of my 3DL shaders on my MacBook Pro M1 on a soccer ball and they all worked. I do not have any homemade shaders to test. This was on the latest Beta as well. Except I was looking at the Iray render engine, but when I remembered to switch to 3DL render engine, it turned to black, not white.

    I've run a few more tests, since:  it's always toon shaders (the Visual Style shaders have the same problem), so far, but not the DS Default toon shaders.  Is there a glitch in one of the "Toon"-specific bricks?

    Update:  Visual Style works, though I thought it didn't.  Other toon shaders, not made in ShaderMixer, don't work.  Those that don't just give a mesh silhouette either in white, or in some variant on the "Diffuse" value.

    Was the 3Delight root updated?

  • Dolce SaitoDolce Saito Posts: 193
    edited September 13

    For the latest Iray version, I noticed enabling "Guided Sampling" or "Caustic Sampler" creates black dots (pixels) in the final render output. Even if I set very high quality targets (2.00 / %99). Interesting enough, enabling denoiser doesn't remove these black dots. (Enabling spectral rendering alone looks fine though.)

    This happened on a room scene where the environment is set to "scene only" and the only light is a point light as disc on the ceiling of the room.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,564

    Eustace Scrubb said:

    Eustace Scrubb said:

    memcneil70 said:

    Eustace Scrubb said:

    I upgraded to the latest Beta tonight, and as soon as I did so, my shaders quit working.  Certain of my homebrewed ShaderMixer toon shaders render in 3Delight anymore, which is a problem, since that's my primary render engine, and these are the main shaders I use.  All I get is a white silhouette whenever I render with them, although Iray shaders, and certain other (non-toon) 3DL shaders work just fine.  Is anyone else having this sort of trouble?  And how do I revert it a stage to the prior install--if that would even work?

    I tested a variety of my 3DL shaders on my MacBook Pro M1 on a soccer ball and they all worked. I do not have any homemade shaders to test. This was on the latest Beta as well. Except I was looking at the Iray render engine, but when I remembered to switch to 3DL render engine, it turned to black, not white.

    I've run a few more tests, since:  it's always toon shaders (the Visual Style shaders have the same problem), so far, but not the DS Default toon shaders.  Is there a glitch in one of the "Toon"-specific bricks?

    Update:  Visual Style works, though I thought it didn't.  Other toon shaders, not made in ShaderMixer, don't work.  Those that don't just give a mesh silhouette either in white, or in some variant on the "Diffuse" value.

    Was the 3Delight root updated?

    No, that would be in the chnage log if it was done (and the people who use 3Delight would have been euphoric).

  • jbowlerjbowler Posts: 794

    Dolce Saito said:

    For the latest Iray version, I noticed enabling "Guided Sampling" or "Caustic Sampler" creates black dots (pixels) in the final render output. Even if I set very high quality targets (2.00 / %99). Interesting enough, enabling denoiser doesn't remove these black dots. (Enabling spectral rendering alone looks fine though.)

    This happened on a room scene where the environment is set to "scene only" and the only light is a point light as disc on the ceiling of the room.

    Try setting the RQ to 0.1 and the %covergence to 100%.  Convergence depends on the EV setting in "tone mapping", even if you have "tone mapping" turned off.  If your scene is very dark (high EV) it will converge very rapidly but the result will not be very good.  In a room scene with a single ceiling point light at a normal level the EV should be somewhere in the range 0 to 5; if it's the default you are way underexposed and you will get artefacts even at 100% convergence.

  • Dolce SaitoDolce Saito Posts: 193

    jbowler said:

    Dolce Saito said:

    For the latest Iray version, I noticed enabling "Guided Sampling" or "Caustic Sampler" creates black dots (pixels) in the final render output. Even if I set very high quality targets (2.00 / %99). Interesting enough, enabling denoiser doesn't remove these black dots. (Enabling spectral rendering alone looks fine though.)

    This happened on a room scene where the environment is set to "scene only" and the only light is a point light as disc on the ceiling of the room.

    Try setting the RQ to 0.1 and the %covergence to 100%.  Convergence depends on the EV setting in "tone mapping", even if you have "tone mapping" turned off.  If your scene is very dark (high EV) it will converge very rapidly but the result will not be very good.  In a room scene with a single ceiling point light at a normal level the EV should be somewhere in the range 0 to 5; if it's the default you are way underexposed and you will get artefacts even at 100% convergence.

    Thanks for the reply. I'm already aware of these facts. Though, It gave me an an idea with the light itself. I would like to try something tonight. I'll return with the results later on.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,423
    edited September 22

    This is a repeatable CRASH scenario for me in DS 4.22.1.202 Public Build:

    1. In Smart Content pane Products tab, select a product and double click to open the product.
    2. Select All Files to show the product assets.
    3. Right-Click on an asset to select it and show the context menu.
    4. In the context menu, select Explore Product...  or Explore Targets... and DS immediately crashes.
    5. This same set of actions does not crash DS 4.22.0.16 General Release.

    Is this repeatable for anyone else?

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,339

    barbult said:

    This is a repeatable CRASH scenario for me in DS 4.22.1.202 Public Build:

    1. In Smart Content pane Products tab, select a product and double click to open the product.
    2. Select All Files to show the product assets.
    3. Right-Click on an asset to select it and show the context menu.
    4. In the context menu, select Explore Product...  or Explore Targets... and DS immediately crashes.
    5. This same set of actions does not crash DS 4.22.0.16 General Release.

    Is this repeatable for anyone else?

    The issue was easily repeated on my side. As per the crashdump analysis, it seems a failure to access DzContentTab and QWidget in dzCcore.dll... definitely a bug.

    And the behavior of Explore Product in General Release is strange though there's no crash... it just refreshes the page in Smart Content, deselects the items and shows nothing then. Do you have the same behavior ?

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,423
    edited September 23

    crosswind said:

    barbult said:

    This is a repeatable CRASH scenario for me in DS 4.22.1.202 Public Build:

    1. In Smart Content pane Products tab, select a product and double click to open the product.
    2. Select All Files to show the product assets.
    3. Right-Click on an asset to select it and show the context menu.
    4. In the context menu, select Explore Product...  or Explore Targets... and DS immediately crashes.
    5. This same set of actions does not crash DS 4.22.0.16 General Release.

    Is this repeatable for anyone else?

    The issue was easily repeated on my side. As per the crashdump analysis, it seems a failure to access DzContentTab and QWidget in dzCcore.dll... definitely a bug.

    And the behavior of Explore Product in General Release is strange though there's no crash... it just refreshes the page in Smart Content, deselects the items and shows nothing then. Do you have the same behavior ?

    In the 4.22.0.16 General Release, when I have a product open in the Smart Content Products tab and right click on an asset and select Explore Product..., it deselects the asset and puts an orange dotted highlight rectangle around the product icon. I figured that was because I was already IN the product in Smart Content, so I didn't find that behavior to be strange.
    If I am in Smart Content Files tab and select Explore Product, it correctly opens the product view for the selected asset, but it is still the Files tab that is highlighted, even though I am looking at a whole product now. I found that to be a little strange, but functional.
    DS 4.22.1.202 crashes on any of the three "Explore" options: Explore Product, Explore Targets, Explore Add-Ons.

    Thank you crosswind for corroborating my report.

    I submitted a Technical Support Ticket, as useless as that seems to be...

    Request #463016 DS 4.22.1.202 repeatable crash

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,339

    Thank you barbult for reporting the issue ! But still, the behaviors of Explore Product / Explore Target seems strange to me. Pls see the screenshots... I didn't see any orange dotted highlight retangle on my side... maybe because of the Style I used...

    And only Explore Add-Ons makes a bit sense to me (screenshot 5)

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  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,518

    barbult said:

    I submitted a Technical Support Ticket, as useless as that seems to be...

    Not always.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 101,564
    edited September 23

    When you seelct Explore Targets you will get all items thata re potentially targets for the file - and since you are in the Products view you will get a list of products, which will appear under every category for which they have at least one file, even if that file isn't one of the targets.

    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/referenceguide/interface/panes/smart_content/product_contents_view/start
    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/referenceguide/interface/panes/smart_content/add-on_assets_view/start
    http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/software/dazstudio/4/referenceguide/interface/panes/smart_content/target_assets_view/start

    Regarding the crash, you might want to check the change log for 4.22.1.221

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,423

    DoctorJellybean said:

    barbult said:

    I submitted a Technical Support Ticket, as useless as that seems to be...

    Not always.

    Did you poke the bear? I actually got a response!

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,423

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Regarding the crash, you might want to check the change log for 4.22.1.221

    Now THAT is customer service! yes
    I hope for a new beta release soon, to regain the explore functionality.

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,518

    barbult said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Regarding the crash, you might want to check the change log for 4.22.1.221

    Now THAT is customer service! yes
    I hope for a new beta release soon, to regain the explore functionality.

    Have you been using the Genie's lamp? The Beta has been updated to 4.22.1.221.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,423

    DoctorJellybean said:

    barbult said:

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Regarding the crash, you might want to check the change log for 4.22.1.221

    Now THAT is customer service! yes
    I hope for a new beta release soon, to regain the explore functionality.

    Have you been using the Genie's lamp? The Beta has been updated to 4.22.1.221.

    I saw Rob's post and I installed it. The Explore options work now. Thanks.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,423

    Update and Merge Menus was recommended. I executed it. It removed all the items in my Scripts menu and all bookmarks from the ManFriday's Content Bookmarks menu. This is not good.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,339

    After merging menus with 4.22.1.221,  I found some new actions... show in below screenshot. I can see them in F3 but cannot find them either in Action List or from the menu. What're are they for ?  Are they meant to be for the Publishing Build or something for PA ?

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