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Making pairs of mirrored Daz morphs using Blender [Solved]

lukon100lukon100 Posts: 803
edited April 7 in Blender Discussion

For my Daz characters, I want to make mirrored pairs of morphs, such as a morph for the left breast and a mirrored one for the right breast, wherein an ERC can be made to execute them both if desired.

So in Blender I want to sculpt a morph on the left breast and use that as the morph target file for Morph Loader Pro and so on. But how in Blender do I make the mirrored version of the morph target file for the right breast?

Blender can morror an object on the X plane, in object mode, quite easily, as shown in this super short vid:

I worry that doing so will screw up the vertex order such that Morph Loader Pro will reject it. Is this so? And if it is so, then what procedure do I really need to do in Blender to make it work correctly?

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  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 803
    edited April 6

    And of course I am familiar with how to make a mesh symmetrical while preserving the vertex order for making a morph. But symmetry is not the goal. Shape-flipping is the goal. It is quite a different situation.

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  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,688

    One way is to enable mirror by topology in edit mode, then select the mesh you want to mirror from -X to +X, then move by zero. The mirror will be applied.

  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 803
    edited April 6

    Padone said:

    One way is to enable mirror by topology in edit mode, then select the mesh you want to mirror from -X to +X, then move by zero. The mirror will be applied.

    I'm sorry, but could you break this down into more elemental steps? Otherwise, I have no Idea how to find a setting called "mirror by topology" to enable. I did a web search for "Blender enable mirror by topology" and found no mention of what you are referring to by the phrase "mirror by topology".

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  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,688

    Sure.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240
    edited April 7
    Morph loader pro can create a mirror morph from an OBJ, right in DAZ Studio. Why do you need to do it in Blender?
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  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 803
    edited April 7

    barbult said:

    Morph loader pro can create a mirror morph from an OBJ, right in DAZ Studio. Why do you need to do it in Blender?

    Lolz. I don't need to do it in Blender at all now that you've informed me that Morph Loader can do it.

    Thanks so much, barbult!

    Yes, I found Morph Loader's X swap function. And, cool, there's also the option to mirror so you don't have to make ERC to control left and right together.

    Ya. Blender's X-swap equivelant shown in the vid I posted above does not preserve vertex order and will fail in Morph Loader pro. And I guess this is why they gave Morph Loader Pro the ability to do mirror swap properly for morphs.

     

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  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 803

    Padone said:

    Sure.

    Oh. Well, thanks for explaining what you really mean there.

    But this is not shape flipping, or swapping. This is mirroring. And I distinctly specified that I'm not interested in mirroring. It would be shape-flipping if once the pointy ear topology were mirrored to the other side, the ear topology on the first side were made un-pointed. Move the pointy-ness to the other side, NOT make both sides pointy.

    For future reference, I'd still like to know whether and how this shape-flipping/side-swapping can be done in Blender in a way that preserves the vertex order for making morphs. If you happen to know the answer, I'd still like to hear it.

  • PadonePadone Posts: 3,688

    There's mirror shape key by topology, so you can mirror the left to get the right.

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  • lukon100lukon100 Posts: 803
    edited April 8

    Padone said:

    There's mirror shape key by topology, so you can mirror the left to get the right.

    Ya that looks like it would work. I didn't even know what shape keys are until your suggestion propmpted me to look into it a bit. So I just gotta think like a Blender animator. Gotta set the basis key before I sculpt, scuplt one side, create that key, create the mirror key, then dial each key to 1 in turn for export to obj.

    Thanks for this trick, Padone!

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