'Free' items added to Product Library

HornetBoyHornetBoy Posts: 40
edited October 10 in The Commons

Hi, I have just logged into my account for the first time in a couple of weeks, and note that 11 items have been added to my Product Library that I have never pruchased and are not part of any of my previous orders. Has something gone wrong or is this a giveaway linked to the recent lauch of Daz Premier? Note that I'm neither a Daz+ or Daz Premier member.

Post edited by Richard Haseltine on

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,882

    Moved to the Commons as it is not a Daz Studio application topic. This has been mentioned in othe threads, the content is a new set of freebies to go with new Interactive Lessons which will be added to your account later.

  • OrangeFalconOrangeFalcon Posts: 179
    edited October 10

    Richard Haseltine said:

    Moved to the Commons as it is not a Daz Studio application topic. This has been mentioned in othe threads, the content is a new set of freebies to go with new Interactive Lessons which will be added to your account later.

    I noticed this, too.  A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.  What's the ETA on the lessons being released?

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  • Calliope23Calliope23 Posts: 531

    I wondered about that, too. Puzzled about products I didn't purchase in my product library, I looked to the forum for answers!

  • hjakehjake Posts: 894
    edited October 10

    I have encountered the same situation of items manually added to my account.

    Snow Queen LIE Makeup Collection for Genesis 9
    Amelia 9 HD Makeup Collection
    dForce Leather Viking Armor for Genesis 9
    CDI Space Valkyrie Poses for Genesis 9
    iRadiance - HDR Mesh Lights Volume 2 Lite
    HDRI Starter Pack
    Worker Uniform Outfit for Genesis 9 Texture Add-On
    Worker Uniform Outfit for Genesis 9
    Eirgrid Hair for Genesis 9

    Are these going to auto-magically disappear at some point?

     

    The Amelia 9 HD Makeup Collection ( https://www.daz3d.com/amelia-9-hd-makeup-collection ) is a weird freebie because it requires Amelia 9 HD ( https://www.daz3d.com/amelia-9-hd ) which was not included.

     

    UPDATE 1: Amelia 9 HD Makeup Collection does say it can be used with any Genesis 9.

    UPDATE 2: Above, Richard (who is now at 99,780 posts!!!) wrote that they were added because they are used for the new interactive lessons.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,882

    I don't have an ETA for the interactive lessons, but I would expect them to be fairly imminent.

  • emanuela1emanuela1 Posts: 614

    Thank you very much DAZ for this new set of freebies. It's a beautiful surprise!:)

  • johnjohn808johnjohn808 Posts: 170
    edited October 10

    In all sencerity, Is there a way to hide or archive unwanted items in the product library?

    I have a whole buch of unused freebies that I made the mistake of grabbing in my first 2 or 3 years learning Daz Studio.

    They are just cluttering up my library.

     

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  • johnjohn808 said:

    In all sencerity, Is there a way to hide or archive unwanted items in the product library?

    I have a whole buch of unused freebies that I made the mistake of grabbing in my first 2 or 3 years learning Daz Studio.

    They are just cluttering up my library.

    You can uninstall them through DIM.

  • johnjohn808johnjohn808 Posts: 170

     

     

    OrangeFalcon said:

    johnjohn808 said:

    In all sencerity, Is there a way to hide or archive unwanted items in the product library?

    I have a whole buch of unused freebies that I made the mistake of grabbing in my first 2 or 3 years learning Daz Studio.

    They are just cluttering up my library.

    You can uninstall them through DIM.

     

    Thanks for your reply.

    Im not installing them. I just don`t want them in my Product Library in my account. As I mentioned, it just clutters things up.

    I actually use my product library to seach for things that I need that I may have have already purchased.

    I also use it to get to the product pages.... to get to the readme files. I wish they included a link to the readme files in the product library.

  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,734

    johnjohn808 said:

     

     

    OrangeFalcon said:

    johnjohn808 said:

    In all sencerity, Is there a way to hide or archive unwanted items in the product library?

    I have a whole buch of unused freebies that I made the mistake of grabbing in my first 2 or 3 years learning Daz Studio.

    They are just cluttering up my library.

    You can uninstall them through DIM.

     

    Thanks for your reply.

    Im not installing them. I just don`t want them in my Product Library in my account. As I mentioned, it just clutters things up.

    I actually use my product library to seach for things that I need that I may have have already purchased.

    I also use it to get to the product pages.... to get to the readme files. I wish they included a link to the readme files in the product library.

     There is no way for you to remove them from your product library. You could however submit a help ticket and request sales support to remove them. 

  • johnjohn808johnjohn808 Posts: 170

    Charlie Judge said:

    johnjohn808 said:

     

     

    OrangeFalcon said:

    johnjohn808 said:

    In all sencerity, Is there a way to hide or archive unwanted items in the product library?

    I have a whole buch of unused freebies that I made the mistake of grabbing in my first 2 or 3 years learning Daz Studio.

    They are just cluttering up my library.

    You can uninstall them through DIM.

     

    Thanks for your reply.

    Im not installing them. I just don`t want them in my Product Library in my account. As I mentioned, it just clutters things up.

    I actually use my product library to seach for things that I need that I may have have already purchased.

    I also use it to get to the product pages.... to get to the readme files. I wish they included a link to the readme files in the product library.

     There is no way for you to remove them from your product library. You could however submit a help ticket and request sales support to remove them. 

    Thank you Charlie.

    Gosh...support...ug.... It`s like pulling my teeth out with them LOL

    But I may try it.

     

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,882

    You an hide things in DIM (and you can use DIM to download but install manually, if you wish).

  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,406

    johnjohn808 said:

    Charlie Judge said:

    johnjohn808 said:

     

     

    OrangeFalcon said:

    johnjohn808 said:

    In all sencerity, Is there a way to hide or archive unwanted items in the product library?

    I have a whole buch of unused freebies that I made the mistake of grabbing in my first 2 or 3 years learning Daz Studio.

    They are just cluttering up my library.

    You can uninstall them through DIM.

     

    Thanks for your reply.

    Im not installing them. I just don`t want them in my Product Library in my account. As I mentioned, it just clutters things up.

    I actually use my product library to seach for things that I need that I may have have already purchased.

    I also use it to get to the product pages.... to get to the readme files. I wish they included a link to the readme files in the product library.

     There is no way for you to remove them from your product library. You could however submit a help ticket and request sales support to remove them. 

    Thank you Charlie.

    Gosh...support...ug.... It`s like pulling my teeth out with them LOL

    But I may try it.

    Sales support is a bit better than technical about getting things done. Especially when it's something simple like removing items. Just prepare a list of SKUs you want removed and they can likely process it pretty quick. (You may want to state that you don't have any of the items installed and you are aware the only way to get them back would be to repurchase them if that's even possible. Skips them having to ask and confirm that.)

  • riuken1riuken1 Posts: 137
    edited October 11

    johnjohn808 said:

    In all sencerity, Is there a way to hide or archive unwanted items in the product library?

    I have a whole buch of unused freebies that I made the mistake of grabbing in my first 2 or 3 years learning Daz Studio.

    They are just cluttering up my library.

     

    To hide products on DIM just select the producs you wan to hide go to Hide pakage and you going to have  two options, one for all the products you selected or just for the one you are right cliking.  In the top left side of DIM is a check box name display hidden, in case you wan to see the hide products and unhide them.

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  • Personally: I have noticed a lot of the freebies are for Genesis 9, which I'm trying to avoid getting into yet another 'spending spiral' for (got a few items, mostly clothing I can now use with Gen 8 due to some 'clones').

    I have been wondering, though (and maybe I should ask this elsewhere than here): Is the ever growing popularity of AI Image generators affecting sales of Poser/Daz Studio products, at least for 'Hobbyists' like myself?

    I use Daz (and Poser) mainly as a hobby/Stress Relief.  I enjoy the process of coming up with an idea, and seeing if I can accomplish that idea with the items I have (which sometimes leads me to purchase other items to help achieve said idea).  I post my results at the 'usual' places, and don't charge anyone to see them.

    Now, with AI Image Generators, you don't even have to purchase the program or the 'items' that go into making the images (it seems, I don't know for sure).  Got to admit, if something like that were available back when I started (about a decade ago), I probably would have used it myself (and saved quite a bit of money ^_^)

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,007

    never got thise freebies

  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,569

    emanuela1 said:

    Thank you very much DAZ for this new set of freebies. It's a beautiful surprise!:)

    +1 heart

  • AbrahamRockwell said:

    Personally: I have noticed a lot of the freebies are for Genesis 9, which I'm trying to avoid getting into yet another 'spending spiral' for (got a few items, mostly clothing I can now use with Gen 8 due to some 'clones').

    I have been wondering, though (and maybe I should ask this elsewhere than here): Is the ever growing popularity of AI Image generators affecting sales of Poser/Daz Studio products, at least for 'Hobbyists' like myself?

    I use Daz (and Poser) mainly as a hobby/Stress Relief.  I enjoy the process of coming up with an idea, and seeing if I can accomplish that idea with the items I have (which sometimes leads me to purchase other items to help achieve said idea).  I post my results at the 'usual' places, and don't charge anyone to see them.

    Now, with AI Image Generators, you don't even have to purchase the program or the 'items' that go into making the images (it seems, I don't know for sure).  Got to admit, if something like that were available back when I started (about a decade ago), I probably would have used it myself (and saved quite a bit of money ^_^)

    I can't answer your question and can only speculate. I'm not an AI doomsayer and I look forward to the day when generative models can be used as a tool in whatever I'm doing. That day is not today, and when that day comes, it won't replace whatever Daz-like product I'm using at that time. It's a tool.

    I do know people who have used Daz to do one off pictures now and then. Mostly, these are for things like character portraits in roleplaying communities, or sometimes to create images of significant milestones in a character's story. The consistency of the characters depicted in any series of images usually isn't there. Styles may vary widely from one image to the next. Faithful representations of the character are less important than marking an occassion with an artefact representing their character. My friends tend to pick up free models and make do, only spending a small amount here and there on store content if there is something very particular they need in an image. Their imagery, as much as their characters and storytelling, are continually evolving. And they will always spend more money commissing an artist to create their images than they will on something like Daz. Artists, of course, each have their own style and will depict very different looking characters from one another, even when representing the same character.

    Generative AI is a boon to the friends I've descrived above. For all intents and purposes, Daz is already dead to them. I don't believe, however, that Daz ever made anything other than a loss out of those friends when we consider that Studio is a loss leader product.

    Are those hobbyists? I don't think so. Those are people who want to create an image and are unfussy about how it's done and, to a decent extend, about how it will look. Their images are a memory, not a vision.

    For anyone who works with Studio because they have a vision - hobbyist or professional - generative AI isn't (currently) a threat. I say that as someone who has worked with generative AI, and as someone who understands, enjoys and can envisage a very lucrative future for it. There are ways you can currently get close to the consistency needed to realise a vision using generative AI, but those are for people who are as interested in mining minerals, gathering pigments, distilling chemicals and mixing their own paints as they are in painting. Or should I say for those more interested, because anyone interested in painting will just paint. I'd be surprised if it's affecting Daz's bottom line in any significant way. It might in the near to medium future, but I'd spectulate that it isn't right now simply because the technology isn't ready and nobody is seriously putting together a product that you can just dip your brush into and let whatever it is that's inside of you out onto the canvas. I hope Daz is or gets there first, but until then, Daz seems fairly safe.

    Of course, it depends on whether your definition of a hobbyist is closer to my description of my friends who used Daz, and how much revenue Daz used to make from people like that.

  • LledelineLledeline Posts: 26

    Thank you for the freebies.

  • maikdeckermaikdecker Posts: 2,752

    AbrahamRockwell said:

    Personally: I have noticed a lot of the freebies are for Genesis 9, which I'm trying to avoid getting into yet another 'spending spiral' for (got a few items, mostly clothing I can now use with Gen 8 due to some 'clones').

    There has been an update that allows to autofit G9 clothing to G8 figures now (and from there to the older figures) so at least the clothing from those free products is useable for people who don't want to invest in G9 (like me and obviously you wink)

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,328
    edited October 11

    daveso said:

    never got thise freebies

    Check your product library? Should be in DIM. Maybe we're not talking about the DS 4.23 tutorial freebies here? The thing about freebies is, there's always the chance we already bought them or didn't claim them at the time.

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  • joannajoanna Posts: 1,465

    daveso said:

    never got thise freebies

    Check your product library, and then manually search for them in DIM. They didn't appear in the purchase order for me. 

  • JohnDelaquioxJohnDelaquiox Posts: 1,195

    What I don't understand is the inclusion of Amelia 9 HD Makeup Collection which requires Amelia 9 HD.

  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,726
    edited October 16

    joanna said:

    daveso said:

    never got thise freebies

    Check your product library, and then manually search for them in DIM. They didn't appear in the purchase order for me. 

    You also might already own them, in which case they probably won't show up as newly added.

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  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 794

    JohnDelaquiox said:

    What I don't understand is the inclusion of Amelia 9 HD Makeup Collection which requires Amelia 9 HD.

    You don't need Amelia 9 to use the makeup collection. 

  • CricketCricket Posts: 456

    I've downloaded these, and I'm having issues. The Worker Uniform I had to install with DIM (I ususally just instal through the program - I know, sacralige!), but none of the texture for the overalls with apply. I keep getting an error when applying; the tank top and boots textures work fine. The Leather Viking Armor, installed through DIM and manually just gives me the empty thumbnails with exclamation points. Has anyone else had this problem?

  • The textures are probably hierarchical presets which means the clothing HAS to be parented to the base figure for the materials to work. As for the other thing, I don't know how to fix that.

  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 794
    edited October 23

    Cricket said:

    I've downloaded these, and I'm having issues. The Worker Uniform I had to install with DIM (I ususally just instal through the program - I know, sacralige!), but none of the texture for the overalls with apply. I keep getting an error when applying; the tank top and boots textures work fine. The Leather Viking Armor, installed through DIM and manually just gives me the empty thumbnails with exclamation points. Has anyone else had this problem?

    I installed those products with DIM. The Leather Viking Armor should've thumbnails if it was installed correctly. The complaint with the extra textures for the Worker Uniform is valid. The DUF presets are actually hierarchical material presets. You have to parent the overall first to a Genesis 9 figure before you can change the color. If you're going to use the overall with a Genesis 8 figure, you'll need to parent it first to a G9, change color and then fit to G8 or change the G8's node name in the scene identification as Genesis9. TBH, just edit the DUF and make a regular material preset.

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  • CricketCricket Posts: 456

    Ok, so I was attemting to use the Worker Uniform on a G8 figure, so I'll try on G9 first. The Viking uniform I guess I'll submit a ticket. I've unistalled and deleted the installer, and reinstalled it twice and still no thumbnails.

  • hjakehjake Posts: 894
    edited October 24

    y3kman said:

    JohnDelaquiox said:

    What I don't understand is the inclusion of Amelia 9 HD Makeup Collection which requires Amelia 9 HD.

    You don't need Amelia 9 to use the makeup collection. 

     

    UPDATE 1: Amelia 9 HD Makeup Collection does say it can be used with any Genesis 9.

    UPDATE 2: Above, Richard wrote that they were added because they are used for the new interactive lessons.

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