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Changes to Surfaces tab?

vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,682
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With DAZ Studio 4.23, I have noticed that the Opacity parameters are missing in the Surfaces tab.

I don't know if it's something I'm doing wrong, but they don't seem to be there anymore.

I used to use these parameters to adust opacity to zero when using anatomical with geoshells, to stop the white color on the anatomy.

Is there a way around this? Can I use a different method?

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487

    geoshell visibility can be altered under Parameters tab by facegroup.

    Opacity will appear as an option on a per shader basis. Not all shaders have opacity.

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,879

    Yes, this is nothing to do with the pane but with the shader applied (which you can see at top-left of the Editor tab). PBRSkin, for example, lacks the Cutout Opacity setting by design.

  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,682

    I tried this and it worked...

    Select the Geoshell > Visibility > Surfaces in Parameters tab.

    Turn "Off" the desired selection(s).

    Thanks!

     

  • Silas3DSilas3D Posts: 565
    If you'd like Cutout Opacity on the PBRSkin shader, check out Josh and I's PBRSkin Plus shader in the store: https://www.daz3d.com/pbr-skin-plus
  • vonHobovonHobo Posts: 1,682

    Silas3D said:

    If you'd like Cutout Opacity on the PBRSkin shader, check out Josh and I's PBRSkin Plus shader in the store: https://www.daz3d.com/pbr-skin-plus

    I will check it out. Thank you! 

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126

    How do I make G9 figure partially visible? 50%? 25%? etc. I can turns parts on and off. But I want the figure to be 66% transparent. Like the alpha channel is set to 0.333 in a paint program. Most every other object in Daz has a Cutout Opacity slider or an Opacity Strength slider. But the base G9 figure does not any Opacity sliders at all. Eyelashes, Eyes, and Tears have Cutout Opacity. But Nails, Skin, Mouth, etc. do not have opacity settings.

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,327

    G9 characters normally use PBR skin as shader, and that doesn't have cutout oppacity, basically because if you use cutout oppacity subsurface won't work.

    You could use something like https://www.daz3d.com/pbr-skin-plus

     

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126
    edited November 1

    And I even have that. Forgot I had it.

    Trying it out... it doesn't work when applied to a Genesis 9 Mouth or Eyes Left or Eyes Right. But does work on EyeMoisture Left and Right. Weird. But all the other G9 parts now have Cutout Opacity. I guess I can't open the figure's mouth... Hmm.

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  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126
    edited November 1

    Silas3D said:

    If you'd like Cutout Opacity on the PBRSkin shader, check out Josh and I's PBRSkin Plus shader in the store: https://www.daz3d.com/pbr-skin-plus

    It does not seem to work on Genesis 9 Eyes or Genesis 9 Mouth assets. The rest of a G9 figure can have cutout opacity added to it. Not these: Genesis 9 Eyes/Eyes Left, Genesis 9 Eyes/Eyes Right, Genesis 9 Mouth/Mouth, Genesis 9 Mouth/Teeth. Even though it say they are PBRSkin (MDL) shaders.

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487

    jmucchiello said:

    Silas3D said:

    If you'd like Cutout Opacity on the PBRSkin shader, check out Josh and I's PBRSkin Plus shader in the store: https://www.daz3d.com/pbr-skin-plusIt does not seem to work on Genesis 9 Eyes or Genesis 9 Mouth assets.

    It does not seem to work on Genesis 9 Eyes or Genesis 9 Mouth assets. The rest of a G9 figure can have cutout opacity added to it. Not these. 

    did you read this thread and the post youre replying to?
    Your screenshot  shows you are using PBRSkin and not the PBRSkin Plus that is referenced in the post you replied to. 

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126
    edited November 1

    It is news to me that I'm not using PBRSkin Plus.

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  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487

    A shader can be applied to any geometry. It would make no sense that you can apply it to some geometry and not other geometry. I responded to your other post in the other thread about this.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487
    edited November 1

    Did you actually click and apply that while selecting the relevant surface in question.

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  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126

    And yet it doesn't work. It looks like the script exits prematurely when applying to the eyes and mouth.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487

    If that's really true that you can apply the shader to some geometry and not other geometry, then you can go into shader editor or shader mixer tab (whatever it is called), and load a shader (load from scene) while selecting a surface with the desired shader.  This will bring the shader into shader mixer and you can then select another surface in your scene and in shader mixer click the Apply button.

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126
    edited November 1

    There's no error in the log. 

    2024-11-01 08:39:27.869 [INFO] :: Prepare asset load (merge): /Shader Presets/Josh Darling/PBRSkin Plus/PBRSkin Plus.duf
    2024-11-01 08:39:27.869 [INFO] :: Locking viewport redraw...
    2024-11-01 08:39:27.869 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw locked.
    2024-11-01 08:39:27.970 [VERBOSE] :: Native format content directories: 3
    2024-11-01 08:39:27.970 [VERBOSE] :: Poser format content directories: 2
    2024-11-01 08:39:27.970 [VERBOSE] :: Other import format content directories: 0
    2024-11-01 08:39:27.970 [INFO] :: Begin asset load (merge): /Shader Presets/Josh Darling/PBRSkin Plus/PBRSkin Plus.duf
    2024-11-01 08:39:27.970 [INFO] :: Determining missing assets...
    2024-11-01 08:39:28.002 [INFO] :: Setting textures...
    2024-11-01 08:39:28.002 [INFO] :: Creating materials...
    2024-11-01 08:39:28.002 [INFO] :: Finished asset load (merge): 0m 0.31s - /Shader Presets/Josh Darling/PBRSkin Plus/PBRSkin Plus.duf
    2024-11-01 08:39:28.219 [INFO] :: Unlocking viewport redraw...
    2024-11-01 08:39:28.219 [INFO] :: Viewport redraw unlocked.

     

    And yes I did apply the script to the eyes and mouth. What a question.

     

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  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126
    edited November 1

    What other shader to use in the mixer? Is there a clear shader? Since I don't want to change the shader for the eyes or mouth. And if I have to do it myself in the baker, why did I buy the product?

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  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126

    More fooling around. Selecting Eyes doesn't work. But doing each eye, left and right separate does work. But selecting the G9 figure, it applies the opacity setting to everything in the surfaces tab of the figure that isn't a separate asset. Weird.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487

    jmucchiello said:

    What other shader to use in the mixer? Is there a clear shader? Since I don't want to change the shader for the eyes or mouth. And if I have to do it myself in the baker, why did I buy the product?

    I was explaining another method for copying/pasting surfaces: step 1. load into shader mixer. step 2: apply it to another surface.

    Not sure what you are referring to with all that stuff in your comment.

  • lilweeplilweep Posts: 2,487

    jmucchiello said:

    And yes I did apply the script to the eyes and mouth. What a question..

    you seem to be struggling to apply a shader preset to a surface, I was trying to confirm that you are selecting the surface(s) in the Surfaces tabbefore applying it (which you have yet to confirm by the way)

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,879

    Threads merged.

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