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Expressions alteration on G8 female after DAZ update 4.23

RomyRomy Posts: 10
in Daz Studio Discussion

Hi all,
A really strange thing happened to me after updating DAZ to version 4.23.01!
Now when I go to apply the expressions to a female face of the G8 they are altered, in the sense that if the mouth smiled it is now too open and unnatural and the same as the eyes being too open, it seems that everything has increased or doubled in value after the update. surprise
I also updated the Genesis 9 Starter Essentials and Genesis 8 Starter Essentials packages because they were available to me as a 12/2024 update.
This didn't happen in version 4.22.
I really regret having done the update, crying does anyone have any advice or know how to solve the problem?
I have already tried with F2 and clear cache but without success.

Thanks to anyone who wants to answer me

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,287
    edited December 20

    The issue happened to G8F or G8.1F to be exactly ?

    Better post a screenshot.

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  • RomyRomy Posts: 10
    edited December 20

    Hi crosswind,

    it should be a charming and light smile.
    As you can see, none of this has completely changed.
    She looks like she's smiling because she's drunk. surprise

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,287

    The culprits seem to be some eJCM relevant corrective morphs or other facial expression wrongly triggered...

    In Parameters Pane, Show Hidden Properties... , select Currently Used, then check if there're any properties unexpectedly dialed.

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  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,105

    Do you have Auto Face Enhancer installed?

  • RomyRomy Posts: 10

    Yes, I had verified this.
    For example, the parameters of the mouth (open, smile) and eyes (cheek) are at higher values ​​than the real pose, over 80 and this causes deformations.

    The problem is why it does this after the update.
    It seems that the values ​​of ready-made expressions are no longer read correctly.
    If I create the expression at the moment it's ok, but if I load an already set expression this mess is created.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,287

    Odd... I've also had everyting updated but couldn't reproduce this sort of issue. If "already set expression" you meant are some Pose Presets you ever saved, you can attach 1 or 2... that we may help with check.

  • RomyRomy Posts: 10

    Gordig said:

    Do you have Auto Face Enhancer installed?

    Hi Gordig,

    Yes I have Auto Face Enhancer HD, gives more realism to the expressions.

  • RomyRomy Posts: 10

    crosswind said:

    Odd... I've also had everyting updated but couldn't reproduce this sort of issue. If "already set expression" you meant are some Pose Presets you ever saved, you can attach 1 or 2... that we may help with check.

    I mean expression packages like, V 100 Expressions The Gold Collection for Genesis 8 Female, when I go to apply them now they make these altered expressions and so either I correct them or I have to create it directly by hand.indecision

     

  • MasterstrokeMasterstroke Posts: 1,997
    edited December 20

    Romy said:

    Gordig said:

    Do you have Auto Face Enhancer installed?

    Hi Gordig,

    Yes I have Auto Face Enhancer HD, gives more realism to the expressions.

    I've deleted Auto Face Enhancer from my Library long time, because I constantly ran into problems with it messing up my other expressions.

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 7,287
    edited December 20

    This product https://www.daz3d.com/auto-face-enhancer gave the update in 2021 to fix the issue of exaggerated facial expressions. http://docs.daz3d.com/doku.php/public/read_me/index/62105/start

    Check if you have the latest version installed. If not, update it. Then go to Edit > Preferences, Clear DSON Cache Files again. Then give it a retry.

    Also, filter AFE !PowerPose in Parameters pane, this is the control property of auto face enhancer effects with expressions, just like the way Bend Control works. Tweak it to see if there's any change.

    I've showed you how to check the hidden properties... you can find there should be a few hidden morphs initiated with AFE triggered. Check if there's any big value dialed.

    If the issue persists, fill a ticket then uninstall the product.

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  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,195
    edited December 22

    Romy said:

    Hi all,
    A really strange thing happened to me after updating DAZ to version 4.23.01!
    Now when I go to apply the expressions to a female face of the G8 they are altered, in the sense that if the mouth smiled it is now too open and unnatural and the same as the eyes being too open, it seems that everything has increased or doubled in value after the update. surprise
    I also updated the Genesis 9 Starter Essentials and Genesis 8 Starter Essentials packages because they were available to me as a 12/2024 update.
    This didn't happen in version 4.22.
    I really regret having done the update, crying does anyone have any advice or know how to solve the problem?
    I have already tried with F2 and clear cache but without success.

    Thanks to anyone who wants to answer me

    Did you updated the G8 packages? If yes, rollback to a previous release.

    Post edited by Imago on
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