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dforce Double Dutch Braids

wickedprince3d_fd273b40acwickedprince3d_fd273b40ac Posts: 154
edited February 22 in The Commons

https://www.daz3d.com/dforce-double-dutch-braids-for-genesis-8-and-genesis-3-females Anyone but me had problems with this? For me it fits to the character, then parents to the head, and it's never posed right. I've uninstalled and reinstalled it several times, but nada. Is there a fix for it someplace?

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,759

    Are you using it on the right version on the figure it was made for?

  • wickedprince3d_fd273b40acwickedprince3d_fd273b40ac Posts: 154
    edited February 22

    Yes, it's a G8 female hair on a G8 female figure. It works fine on G8 and V8 based characters, but if you work with more anime style characters it gets more and more deformed.

     

    The below will show what I'm getting. Far right is V8, far left is Daisy8; middle is Girl8. And the more I customize by adding different character morphs the more bizare it gets.

     

    If you look at the bottom right you can see that the scalp is fitted to Girl8's head according to the hair morphs.

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  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 102,759

    Morphs thata re not natively suported (that is, the PA hasn't made a custom morph for the hair to match the shape on the figure) get projected into the hair according to how the closest bit of the figure has changed; the more radical the chnage, the more likely that is to produce an ugly result.

  • wickedprince3d_fd273b40acwickedprince3d_fd273b40ac Posts: 154
    edited February 24

    This is a problem with how this specific hair was set up. I have a few dozen dForce hairs and this is the only one that parents to the head. The parenting is why it's not properly morphing with the character. At least IMHO. Note that I said Parents, not Fits. It fits to the character, but it parents to the head as well.

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,313

    If there's an issue with the product, you need to file a ticket to report the issue so it can be fixed.

  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,276
    edited February 24

    That hair was one of the first strand based hairs in the store. Its roughly 6 years old... It was made long before we had the tricks we use now.  Chances are, you own more modern dforce hairs.

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  • wickedprince3d_fd273b40acwickedprince3d_fd273b40ac Posts: 154

    chevybabe25    I wasn't aware of that, it explains why it's such an oddity compared to all the other dForce hairs I have. I produce so many renders in a week that I'm often looking for something new - so I come back to this hair every so often and try to figure out what's wrong with the rigging.

     

    frank0314    I wasn't sure if it was just me, or if it was the product. I wasn't sure if it was just installing wrong, or I was using it wrong somehow. I find that sometimes there's an oddity in a product that I have to work around, for instance a clothing product that had a shoulder shrug that didn't work right for the anime figures I prefer to work with. I found out that if I pulled it into the scene as a free item without immediately fitting it to a character, THEN fit it to my character it would fit properly. An odd extra step, but somehow it works. I got a response from the vendor on that one actually explaining it.

  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,276

    I *feel* like it may have debuted even before the toon or anime shapes but Im not positive.. which is another reason it may not fit what you have there.  

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,679

    Case is, the cap gets projection morphs, but the SBH does not.

  • chevybabe25chevybabe25 Posts: 1,276

    Felis is correct.  It was a clever way at the time to get the morph projections to kind of behave. We now have much better solutions thankfully.

    My best advice is to dial in your shape first.. then instead of fitting the hair, load it in, scale it up, move it into place and then parent it onto the head.

     

  • felisfelis Posts: 4,679

    chevybabe25 said:

    My best advice is to dial in your shape first.. then instead of fitting the hair, load it in, scale it up, move it into place and then parent it onto the head.

     

    Suggestion:  as the hair has a cap, hide the hair, while scaling and positioning the hair in place. It makes it easier to place/match.

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