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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    th3Digit said:

    you could rig that for Genesis 3 

    but ......

    1. nobody outside of Australia will have clue what it is
    2. it's not skimpy enough

    I dunno, it's gotta metal codpiece. I think that could attract some of the community.

    Mind you, a metal codpiece has got to be uncomfortable. So we can add another subset there.

    So that's Andy under there?

     

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,054
    edited April 2017

    lol... probably right Wendy..

    I dumped Andy and rigged it to Genesis with flanno to see if it worked... kinda sorta..

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  • DesertDudeDesertDude Posts: 1,235
    wgdjohn said:

    DesertDude,  What did you do to convert to 4 sided polys?  Looks great.

    Thanks wgdjohn. I didn't really do anything...I just tried a bunch of combinations of Subdividing and Tesselate with lots of trial and error using both a converted Icosahedron and a Polyhedron. I watched a few tutorials about creating a soccer ball, but they were for other softwares and there didn't seem to be any direct translation in Carrara. Just a happy accident it worked like it did.

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,054

    To go with my Ned's Armour I need a home for him.. so I am going to venture out to the high countryof Victoria and give a go at modelling a cabin with landscape...

    Along the lines of this photo.... 

     

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited April 2017

    At the speed that you model you should have it done tonight. wink

    BTW:  I live in STL, MO, USA... smack dab in middle of the heartland and have known who Ned Kelly was for quite some time due to seeing a movie about him.

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,054

    I have no idea what an STL, MO is I'm sorry... USA I have an idea of frown

     

  • MarkIsSleepyMarkIsSleepy Posts: 1,496
    edited April 2017
    Stezza said:

    I have no idea what an STL, MO is I'm sorry... USA I have an idea of frown

     

    Just go about 300 miles south from Chicago and look for the big arch (like half a McDonald's sign). You can't miss it.  wink

    I did that drive many times in the past.

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited April 2017

    Hah... ha... Saint Louis, Missouri in the United States... beginning to wonder what the latter is myself these days.

    A McDonlads sign is shaped like an arch but is miniture and coloured brightly yellow+red compared to the Saint Louis Arch which I can see from 10+ miles away. :)

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206

    St Louis Missouri

    I had to Google it 

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited July 2017

    Wendy,  The New York Rockettes originated in Saint Louis Missouri in 1925 known then by the "Missouri Rockets", before my time, before moving to New York in 1932... before that they had.  Go Goole that.  cheeky

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,054

    OK... I google earthed it... must be flat country if you can see it from 10 miles away..

    but I was more intrigued by this bridge to nowhere on the other side of the river!

     

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,054

    aspiring female astronauts maybe?

     

    wgdjohn said:

    The New York Rockettes originated in Saint Louis Missouri in 1925 

     

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    Stezza said:

    aspiring female astronauts maybe?

     

    wgdjohn said:

    The New York Rockettes originated in Saint Louis Missouri in 1925

    Long legged beautiful astronauts from Venus who inhabitated Earth long ago. :)

  • VyusurVyusur Posts: 2,235

    Maybe it's a nature-friendly parking lot?

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206

    a wicked skate ramp?

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    TangoAlpha said:

    In the first example, straighten up the long strip. Carrara does like mapping things at "jaunty angles" (to my great annoyance!) and that can cause problems if you're trying to match up a patterned texture (for example) from one side to the other. You'll also notice the scale of the three islands is different. You'll need to even that up too. Generally Carrara's mapping makes small parts too big and big parts too small (another PITA!) More efficient here would be a "T" or coross shaped map (remove the seam between each "arn" and the main strip).

    In the second example, think about your UV map real estate usage. Having lots of space between your islands just wastes memory, especially with larger sized maps. You could scale those squares up (= better resolution) and move them around to better utilise the space (= more efficient memory usage)

    One thing that you might not have considered is orientation. Check that what is "up" on your model is also "up" on the UV map. You'll probably find that at least one of those squares is upside down or sideways. It may not matter but if your textures have a side that needs to be "up", then it will be important.

    Tim, I'm understanding everything not highlighted well... I believe.

    I understand that sides should be up thanks to your help.  What I keep wondering about is the top face and the bottom face.  Does orientation for those make a difference?   I'm of course speaking seperate islands and not T Cross method.  Perhaps I'll take a peak at one of your products... I think I'm only missing one... which is in wishlist.

    Thanks... again for your very helpful explainations... As well as the new Carrara content... Kewl!

  • TangoAlphaTangoAlpha Posts: 4,584

    I don't think so. The important thing is that they face in the direction that you think they do.

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634

    Thanks... I'm such a bother... need to quit procatinating and just do it. :)

  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,054
    edited April 2017

    Started on my Ned Cabin

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    Stezza said:

    Started on my Ned Cabin

     

    hey that's great, mate

     

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634

    My last go at my letter Z... I fixed the error I'd made when adding thickness before.  It's time on moved onto another letter... hmmm... which one shall I do??? there are a lot to go yet. Let's see I already have a C and A all I need is to put a leg on my P and I'll have all the letters needed to spell Carrara!

    BTW: If I didn't mention it before, likely that I did, the large letters are scaled to 300%... the smaller ones ar 100%.  Just glanced at the pic... reminds me I need to design some shaders for new walls and floor.

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  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634
    edited April 2017

    Modeling Clothes Question:

    Does Add Thickness ever need to be used for clothing?  The videos I've seen don't use it.

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  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145

    Most clothing is done single sided, and it would add a lot of geometry that you can't see to have everything with thickness.  That said, for thicker cloth, boots etc you may want to have the illusion of thickness at the edges. For that I have used Add Thickness, then with the inner surface still selected, use Shrink Selection once or twice (until you can't see any selected polys) and then delete - so just enough to add some thickness at the edges without adding too much unneeded geometry.  If you are using dynamic cloth, use the single sided model for the simulation and then add the thickness afterwards - the sim is preserved, as are UVs.

  • wgdjohnwgdjohn Posts: 2,634

    Thanks Phil... that makes a lot of sense.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,009

    Can you bake displacement maps to a mesh? If so, how?

    What I want to do is come up with a displacement map for a figure, bake it to the figure in a low poly mode to get some of the effect, then add the displacement on top for added detail.

     

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206
    edited April 2017
    timmins.william said:

    Can you bake displacement maps to a mesh? If so, how?

    What I want to do is come up with a displacement map for a figure, bake it to the figure in a low poly mode to get some of the effect, then add the displacement on top for added detail.

     

    displace in 3D view and export an obj

    but be warned it ends up very high poly and rather messy

    and of course would need to be rerigged

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,009

    Any way to preserve/revert to the original mesh, just... moved?

     

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145

    If I understand what you are trying to do, export the mesh as Wendy suggests above (at base resolution of the mesh) and then load it as a morph onto your original figure, that way you can preserve the rigging. Depending on the figure that you are using, it may be better to do that in Daz Studio. Once the morph has been created, it should be available to you in Carrara as well.

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,009

    Frustratingly, I cannot get the morph loader in Daz to accept the displaced geometry. Keeps talking about mismatch.

    sigh

    Back to the drawing board.

     

  • PhilWPhilW Posts: 5,145
    timmins.william said:

    Frustratingly, I cannot get the morph loader in Daz to accept the displaced geometry. Keeps talking about mismatch.

    sigh

    Back to the drawing board.

     

    That is probably due to a mismatch of the resolution you are using - ensure that everything is set to Base Resolution - and of course don't do any edits to the mesh that changes the number or arrangement of vertices, other than moving them around.

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