A Thread for Items with the "Editorial License"

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206
    edited January 5

    AgitatedRiot said:

    It might just be the Name Porsche Stinger GTR. Some elements of the model do look inspired by this Iconic Car. The Grill looks BMW. There is also a Kia Stinger GT. The body style looks like KIA. Then, when you do an image search, it's BMW. So I don't understand why it didn't get hit; I played it safe and didn't buy it.

    My brother has a Kia Stinger so I would probably buy one of those in 3D even with an EL

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  • Charlie JudgeCharlie Judge Posts: 12,731

    Artini said:

    lorraineopua said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/supra-a90

    Looks very nice. It is pity, that it is not usable for me. https://www.daz3d.com/supra-a90

    Just wonder, if the Toyota logo would be removed could the car be used without editorial license.

     

    Unfortunately, no. Altering the product does not change the fact that the product still will only have an editorial license. 

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,319

    AgitatedRiot said:

    It might just be the Name Porsche Stinger GTR. Some elements of the model do look inspired by this Iconic Car. The Grill looks BMW. There is also a Kia Stinger GT. The body style looks like KIA. Then, when you do an image search, it's BMW. So I don't understand why it didn't get hit; I played it safe and didn't buy it.

    This? https://www.daz3d.com/stinger-gtr-coupe Obviously inspired by early 2000s BMW m3 coupe. Has no branding. Looks race-prepped, though - full roll cage, minimal interior, custom wheels, etc. Maybe far enough from the real thing to miss the EL fun.

  • AbyssalErosAbyssalEros Posts: 289

    Take care, guys; this texture add-on is also useless because of the editorial license: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,444

    AbyssalEros said:

    Take care, guys; this texture add-on is also useless because of the editorial license: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on.

    ^%$% I bought it right after the store turned over and it did not have it at that time although it does in my Library makes twice this has happened. Guess if I buy anything I'll have to start waiting for several hours to do so

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,319
    edited January 5

    AbyssalEros said:

    Take care, guys; this texture add-on is also useless because of the editorial license: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on.

    Because in the end, there can be only one! laugh Most unfortunate, actually. sad I guess I should actually look at these things sometimes. As if putting MacLeod on the broadsword hilt weren't enough, the katana is a replica of Duncan's dragon katana, but I thought of Highlander the second I saw the Highland Swords listed as a product.

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  • columbinecolumbine Posts: 453
    edited January 5

    AbyssalEros said:

    Take care, guys; this texture add-on is also useless because of the editorial license: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on.

    Apparently there really can only be one.

    EDIT: Darn it, why didn't Torquinox' post show when I first loaded the thread?

    EDIT TO EDIT: Oh, because there was a whole new page of posts I didn't see to navigate to. Oops.

    Post edited by columbine on
  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,319

    columbine said:

    AbyssalEros said:

    Take care, guys; this texture add-on is also useless because of the editorial license: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on.

    Apparently there really can only be one.

    EDIT: Darn it, why didn't Torquinox' post show when I first loaded the thread?

    EDIT TO EDIT: Oh, because there was a whole new page of posts I didn't see to navigate to. Oops.

    We'll call that "Great Minds Think Alike" and it's all good smiley

  • vwranglervwrangler Posts: 4,885

    The swords themselves are likely safe enough, even if the texture addons are problematic -- those are historical shapes -- but I don't understand why the car was even allowed into the store in the first place. I don't understand why Daz doesn't say to the PAs, "Look, you can't use a real product name, and you can't use a real product logo. There may be other considerations that make us put an editorial license on something, but don't do things like that."

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,444

    vwrangler said:

    The swords themselves are likely safe enough, even if the texture addons are problematic -- those are historical shapes -- but I don't understand why the car was even allowed into the store in the first place. I don't understand why Daz doesn't say to the PAs, "Look, you can't use a real product name, and you can't use a real product logo. There may be other considerations that make us put an editorial license on something, but don't do things like that."

    Yeah in the past they have pulled items that looked too close or appeared to be real. A certain motorcycle comes to mind

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,508

    now even swords are included? I would not have even thought of looking to see if this was under the EL next thing you know animals will cop it  well actually has already happened elsewhere. I live in Tasmania and my state was finally approved to create it's own football team and we were going to name it after one of our iconic animals the Tasmanian Devil but it was forbidden because America- Warner Brothers own all the rights it was a huge news story here so if a new version of the Tassie Devil is uploaded here that'll probably get slapped with the EL and probably a lot of outher Aussie related stuff including other animals which have appeared as cartoon characters, boomerangs, ugboots - we actually had a copyright fight over that with an American company we won that one, abrigional style art/decoration, could make a long list probably.

     

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,508

    btw anyone else notice we had two cars that didn't get slapped with the EL both by a new artist so they maybe one to follow for new cars https://www.daz3d.com/pinkslip ;

     

  • Korpin.SulatKorpin.Sulat Posts: 414

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    btw anyone else notice we had two cars that didn't get slapped with the EL both by a new artist so they maybe one to follow for new cars https://www.daz3d.com/pinkslip ;

     

    Odd though that the only extra license you can buy for them is 3D printing, not extended...

  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,508

    marcus.ames said:

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    btw anyone else notice we had two cars that didn't get slapped with the EL both by a new artist so they maybe one to follow for new cars https://www.daz3d.com/pinkslip ;

     

    Odd though that the only extra license you can buy for them is 3D printing, not extended...

    I've noticed a few products lately only have that option too maybe that's another change not everything is given the intactive license, wonder if they'll bring out another 3d prtinting license that allows you to sell some statues/dioramas that'd be cool

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,694
    edited January 6

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

     maybe that's another change not everything is given the intactive license

    That's nothing new, having an interactive licence hs always been an option the PA has to check for the product, not something added automatically to all products.

    wonder if they'll bring out another 3d prtinting license that allows you to sell some statues/dioramas that'd be cool

    That's what the 3D printing license add-on is for, it allows commercial use of 3D prints. 3D printing for personal, non-commercial use is covered by the standard license.

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  • ANGELREAPER1972ANGELREAPER1972 Posts: 4,508

    Leana said:

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

     maybe that's another change not everything is given the intactive license

    That's nothing new, having an interactive licence hs always been an option the PA has to check for the product, not something added automatically to all products.

    wonder if they'll bring out another 3d prtinting license that allows you to sell some statues/dioramas that'd be cool

    That's what the 3D printing license add-on is for, it allows commercial use of 3D prints. 3D printing for personal, non-commercial use is covered by the standard license.

    oh they've changed it? I thought the 3D license was like the editorial license still in that we could buy the permission to 3d print stuff but only for ourselves or give as a present but not allowed to sell the statue/diorama make money from it and the interactive license usage in games/movies had certain stipulations as well. I'm happy though we at least are allowed still to sell stuff with our renders that don't have any content that is under the editorial license

  • ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    btw anyone else notice we had two cars that didn't get slapped with the EL both by a new artist so they maybe one to follow for new cars https://www.daz3d.com/pinkslip ;

     

    Something is wrong with the link. I got the Oops! page when clicking on it or right click/new tab. Copy/paste into browser works.

    (When it first happened I thought "Wow, did Daz get scared, have second thoughts about not giving the cars EL, and remove them?" Then I noticed there were extra characters in the address field so played around)

  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,206

    you need to copy the link without the that gets added by pasting and not using the link icon in the forum menu

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,169

    Dartanbeck said:

    I'm to the point where I'm going to submit yet another ticket requesting a way to block editorial license items from my shopping experience....

    But it's hard, in a store like this, to notice whether or not something has that freaking license. ...  I can't have anything with that freaking license in my library. The library is Huge for a reason - need something, grab something and use it. I'll never remember which are which when the crunch is crunching!...

    This.

    This!

     

  • TorquinoxTorquinox Posts: 3,319
    edited January 6

    miladyderyni_173d399f47 said:

    ANGELREAPER1972 said:

    btw anyone else notice we had two cars that didn't get slapped with the EL both by a new artist so they maybe one to follow for new cars https://www.daz3d.com/pinkslip ;

     

    Something is wrong with the link. I got the Oops! page when clicking on it or right click/new tab. Copy/paste into browser works.

    (When it first happened I thought "Wow, did Daz get scared, have second thoughts about not giving the cars EL, and remove them?" Then I noticed there were extra characters in the address field so played around)

    The link has some code stuff in it. You want  https://www.daz3d.com/pinkslip And you already got it. Haha! Um, that other car is a race-prepped porsche look-alike. I see a theme there. It's ot really going to work for folks who want ordinary cars. But hey! The doors open and the front tires can steer. Looks like there are other race adjustments for the wheels as well.  Seats seem to be adjustable, too. Not bad! At least that's what I got from the description.

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  • kyoto kidkyoto kid Posts: 41,042
    edited January 7

    Artini said:

    lorraineopua said:

    https://www.daz3d.com/supra-a90

    Looks very nice. It is pity, that it is not usable for me. https://www.daz3d.com/supra-a90

    Just wonder, if the Toyota logo would be removed could the car be used without editorial license.

     

    .. .what bothers me is this and two other recent vehicles with IP licences have ben released as Daz+ items.   it sort of deduces the value of membership because it means it cannot be used in any work that generates income, including am art challenge where monetary prizes are offered (which would include store credit) .  I also do illustration work and would be unable to use these for that purpose without paying extra fees to the IP owner.

    The Stinger, which is also discussed here, is different enough, just like the Spy Car,  2012 (Aston Martin DB series) the Teuf Teuf (Citroën 2CV), or Car Ranger (Range Rover) to not require an Editorial Use licence.  

    Post edited by kyoto kid on
  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,444

    Diomede said:

    Dartanbeck said:

    I'm to the point where I'm going to submit yet another ticket requesting a way to block editorial license items from my shopping experience....

    But it's hard, in a store like this, to notice whether or not something has that freaking license. ...  I can't have anything with that freaking license in my library. The library is Huge for a reason - need something, grab something and use it. I'll never remember which are which when the crunch is crunching!...

    This.

    This!

     

    +1 

  • LynnInDenverLynnInDenver Posts: 147

    At this point, I've given up waiting for them to realize that the ability to exclude - or at least have immediately called out - the presence of Editorial is a very desirable feature for people who might be - or are - using DAZ Studio for commercial work. The process of having to check an area of the product page - and have that be the ONLY area it's ever called out - has basically dropped my browsing of the store to a bare minimum, already being reduced by the EL being applied to part of a product series and a still pretty recent incident of credit card information theft we dealt with that this site was one of only three places it could have happened at. I'm just considering that they consider this a feature, not an omission, that someone could accidentally buy an EL without wanting it in their library and not noticing until the refund period has passed by.

    There are other stores I can buy product from, and that's where my business has gone.

  • ImagoImago Posts: 5,155

    Diomede said:

    This.

    This!

    +1000

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,169
    edited January 7

    To the extent I can, I am using the Content Folder to add a tag for 'editorial license.'  For the items that have smart content data, they show up if I type 'editorial' in the Smart Content filter.  Not the best solution because any item that has editorial in the title or description such as a future release that might use the word editorial, such as a newspaper office set, would also get picked up.  And, my approach does not examine current scene items and check for the tag.  But it is something at least.

    editorial license tag 1.png
    758 x 833 - 157K
    editorial tag smart content 2.png
    468 x 287 - 62K
    Post edited by Diomede on
  • memcneil70memcneil70 Posts: 4,114

    Why are they so worried over this when there is a can of 'Coca Cola' in the store? I was building the metadata for a product and was surprised when I saw the name, swirl design and all on the drink can from the product bought during the buyout from RuntimeDNA. Never really thought about it before, but did this time when installing it in my new computer.

    But I almost bought the texture set for the swords until I saw the forum thread. Thanks guys, saved me money. I would never have paid attention to that small warning. Can't they print it in flashing red? And there are a butt load of clans in Scotland, did it have to be named for MacLeod?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,839

    memcneil70 said:

    Why are they so worried over this when there is a can of 'Coca Cola' in the store? I was building the metadata for a product and was surprised when I saw the name, swirl design and all on the drink can from the product bought during the buyout from RuntimeDNA. Never really thought about it before, but did this time when installing it in my new computer.

    But I almost bought the texture set for the swords until I saw the forum thread. Thanks guys, saved me money. I would never have paid attention to that small warning. Can't they print it in flashing red? And there are a butt load of clans in Scotland, did it have to be named for MacLeod?

    If you report the coke can it can be reviewed.

  • BeeMKayBeeMKay Posts: 7,019

    Robert Freise said:

    AbyssalEros said:

    Take care, guys; this texture add-on is also useless because of the editorial license: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on.

    ^%$% I bought it right after the store turned over and it did not have it at that time although it does in my Library makes twice this has happened. Guess if I buy anything I'll have to start waiting for several hours to do so

    Seems like the highland swords no longer have an editorial license? I just checked them out to update my list, but they seemed fine.
  • NathNath Posts: 2,804

    BeeMKay said:

    Robert Freise said:

    AbyssalEros said:

    Take care, guys; this texture add-on is also useless because of the editorial license: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on.

    ^%$% I bought it right after the store turned over and it did not have it at that time although it does in my Library makes twice this has happened. Guess if I buy anything I'll have to start waiting for several hours to do so

    Seems like the highland swords no longer have an editorial license? I just checked them out to update my list, but they seemed fine.

    It's not the swords, but the texture add-on: https://www.daz3d.com/highland-swords-texture-add-on

  • BeeMKay said:

    Updated for the https://www.daz3d.com/supra-a90

    ok I'm confused now this and a lot of these products with the editorial license are Daz+ products and under this we're not to profit from renders using said products including contests correct? So how does that work with Daz render contests here? As I haven't looked at the Daz + members forum here for awhile so I doin't know about previous products but this weeks challenge includes the supra-a90 as one of the product entries to render

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