March Madness is upon us - Talk about it

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  • ElorElor Posts: 1,985

    TriCounter said:

    Also all the Pro Bundles have now gone again, like they did when the character/add on started , which is shows very poor customer respect.

    If you want to add the new bundles to your wishlist, you can use this list of G9 core figures:

    https://www.daz3d.com/forums/discussion/642596/list-of-g9-core-figures

    There is usually a list of the bundles related to each figure in their description.

    There is a good new related to the disappearance of the Starter and Pro Bundles: all the shapes that were only available for a limited time are now back (most of the purchaseable as stand alone products, some as part of the HD Addon bundle) and it's the same for the shapes exclusive to Pro Bundles (Olympia, Julias, Van Helsing, etc, most of them are now standalone products, except Olivia's shape).

    I reported the shapes not available as standalone products, so hopefully it's a mistake that will be fixed.

  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 567

    frank0314 said:

    TriCounter said:

    Also all the Pro Bundles have now gone again, like they did when the character/add on started , which is shows very poor customer respect.

     

    Not sure where you're seeing that. I just scrolled through every DO G9 bundles in the store and there isn't a single inactive one, so maybe try clearing your cache and see if that fixes it. All the G9 bundles are being separated like some have already so you're not going to see Pro, starter, mega anymore, unless they forget to take those down once transferred.

    My cache is fine, the bundles have been deleted.

  • joannajoanna Posts: 1,611

    frank0314 said:

    Not sure where you're seeing that. I just scrolled through every DO G9 bundles in the store and there isn't a single inactive one, so maybe try clearing your cache and see if that fixes it. All the G9 bundles are being separated like some have already so you're not going to see Pro, starter, mega anymore, unless they forget to take those down once transferred.

    Nikolai, Caldwell, Cheyenne, Sophia, Zahara, to name just a few Pro bundles that were inactive in my WL last night. If you're scrolling through the store, you won't see them, because they are, well, inactive.

  • hjakehjake Posts: 974
    edited February 25

    Your wishlist should be chock-full of every product you might ever want to buy if DAZ made you an offer you couldn't refuse.

    You never know when the DAZ elves will give out coupons that seriously discount anything already on your wishlist. I have pruchased some items at over 90% off due to it being on my wishlist.

    For DAZ they get to accumulate statistics on which item are most desired by their customers.

     

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  • TriCounterTriCounter Posts: 567

    joanna said:

    frank0314 said:

    Not sure where you're seeing that. I just scrolled through every DO G9 bundles in the store and there isn't a single inactive one, so maybe try clearing your cache and see if that fixes it. All the G9 bundles are being separated like some have already so you're not going to see Pro, starter, mega anymore, unless they forget to take those down once transferred.

    Nikolai, Caldwell, Cheyenne, Sophia, Zahara, to name just a few Pro bundles that were inactive in my WL last night. If you're scrolling through the store, you won't see them, because they are, well, inactive.

    So they've all gone due to the new bundle structure (to not confuse) but you can now buy licenses on inactive produts you own from your library.

    That's all I was asking for, so I'm happy... slowly dumping the 28 bundles I had on my wishlist that have been culled from the store.

  • OrangeFalcon said:

    TriCounter said:

    Also all the Pro Bundles have now gone again, like they did when the character/add on started , which is shows very poor customer respect.

     

     

    I used to get the Pro Bundles but sometimes they were just out of my price range.  I went to compare the price of the Tara 9 Pro Bundle, which was $229.99.  Both Tara Bundles right now, baseline, are $189.99, and the only item not in any of them that were in the pro bundle is Succubus Hierarchical Poses for Tara 9, priced at $18.99.  So that's $208.86 total instead.  I dunno if this applies to all of the bundle combinations and how they were split, but at least it isn't more than the Pro Bundle used to be.  And that isn't taking into account you can use a free coupon on the currently priced $64.99 Tara 9, get the other at $23.40, use some tokens and...yeah.  A great deal.  I paid $43.38 for the Pro Bundle, which was also a great deal, but it's definitely comparable to what we can do now, with Premier anyway.

    With the free monthly coupon, I spend less for about the same amount for one of the new releases.  For that to work I need to take advantage of the reduced prices for having the non-free bundle in my cart with one of the buy-in products to reduce it, then plus the tokens.  I've gotten one of those down to $16.98 before.  I think one of the purposes is to also give us options and make it less of a mess, because some characters had the Pro, also the starter, then the MEGA, not to mention Victoria and Michael both had several themed bundles, Freja 9 had a couple...just too many bundles.  Now we have just the two and I like it better that way.

    Around New Year's Day, I picked up the Tara bundle with my coupon, plus the Succubus Add-on & the 3 other items I wanted for 90+% off. I already had the Lilithra Hair as an Advent freebie. So spent about $8 and was - & still am - very happy. 

  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,779

    Is it me or are there no NEW RELEASES today? I feel like those are the same items as yesterday and, and the new releases link is inactive?

    I'm confused. A March Madness with no new sales?

  • ElorElor Posts: 1,985

    They are new releases today, you can see them here:

    https://www.daz3d.com/march-madness-25

    It's the same page as yesterday, because during month long sales like March Madness, Daz usually has only one page to show each day's offers.

  • Griffin AvidGriffin Avid Posts: 3,779

    Thank you! That explains it.

  • davesodaveso Posts: 7,173

    not really much mad today...or a lot of mad considering its pretty vanilla overall. 

  • ServantServant Posts: 760

    hjake said:

    Your wishlist should be chock-full of every product you might ever want to buy if DAZ made you an offer you couldn't refuse.

    You never know when the DAZ elves will give out coupons that seriously discount anything already on your wishlist. I have pruchased some items at over 90% off due to it being on my wishlist.

    For DAZ they get to accumulate statistics on which item are most desired by their customers.

     

     Well, not every product, but I do like that DAZ sometimes take into account how long the item has been on the wishlist (though whether that affects how big the discounts can be is unclear).

    As per the OP regarding the Madness itself, yeah, it's underwhelming so far. But I did get to check off some stuff I'd been eyeing for a while (Rawart and Stonemason products, mostly).

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677

    So far, there isn't anything that really does it for me.  Lots of female genesis 9 content and a male mohawk. Tons of that stuff already in the store.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,853

    Serene Night said:

    So far, there isn't anything that really does it for me.  Lots of female genesis 9 content and a male mohawk. Tons of that stuff already in the store.

    Look at "What's Hot". Female genital anatomy morphs and pubic hair - multiple of each. I guess we are no longer their target customer.

  • OrangeFalconOrangeFalcon Posts: 538
    edited February 25

    barbult said:

    Serene Night said:

    So far, there isn't anything that really does it for me.  Lots of female genesis 9 content and a male mohawk. Tons of that stuff already in the store.

    Look at "What's Hot". Female genital anatomy morphs and pubic hair - multiple of each. I guess we are no longer their target customer.

    When they released those during the Valentine's Day sale I was most displeased.  Then I forgot about them until I also saw them in the What's Hot section.  It'd be nice to have an option to hide products I don't ever want to see, like these.  I'd rather not have this store become Renderotica 2.0, and I just find it really weird to have several products of the same type like that thrown in the banner where I can't hide them at all.

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  • FrankTheTankFrankTheTank Posts: 1,224

    I hope we get most of the "good stuff" from Renderotica sold here eventually. One can hide adult content here now, so I don't know what the big deal is. I buy some things from there, and I'd like to see that stuff heavily discounted with Daz sales. So I'm all for Daz expanding their content to make that stuff cheaper.

  • FrankTheTank said:

    I hope we get most of the "good stuff" from Renderotica sold here eventually. One can hide adult content here now, so I don't know what the big deal is. 

    Images can be hidden (are hidden, by default) but not whole products.

    I buy some things from there, and I'd like to see that stuff heavily discounted with Daz sales. So I'm all for Daz expanding their content to make that stuff cheaper.

  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 479

    OrangeFalcon said:

    barbult said:

    Serene Night said:

    So far, there isn't anything that really does it for me.  Lots of female genesis 9 content and a male mohawk. Tons of that stuff already in the store.

    Look at "What's Hot". Female genital anatomy morphs and pubic hair - multiple of each. I guess we are no longer their target customer.

    When they released those during the Valentine's Day sale I was most displeased.  Then I forgot about them until I also saw them in the What's Hot section.  It'd be nice to have an option to hide products I don't ever want to see, like these.  I'd rather not have this store become Renderotica 2.0, and I just find it really weird to have several products of the same type like that thrown in the banner where I can't hide them at all.

    My reaction is the complete opposite. I'm glad to see this content, especially when it's done with a high level of quality. I'm glad that I can now buy this content here and have not only the discounts but also the QC and product support DAZ offers.

  • hjakehjake Posts: 974
    edited 1:39PM

    3DSaga said:

    OrangeFalcon said:

    barbult said:

    Serene Night said:

    So far, there isn't anything that really does it for me.  Lots of female genesis 9 content and a male mohawk. Tons of that stuff already in the store.

    Look at "What's Hot". Female genital anatomy morphs and pubic hair - multiple of each. I guess we are no longer their target customer.

    When they released those during the Valentine's Day sale I was most displeased.  Then I forgot about them until I also saw them in the What's Hot section.  It'd be nice to have an option to hide products I don't ever want to see, like these.  I'd rather not have this store become Renderotica 2.0, and I just find it really weird to have several products of the same type like that thrown in the banner where I can't hide them at all.

    My reaction is the complete opposite. I'm glad to see this content, especially when it's done with a high level of quality. I'm glad that I can now buy this content here and have not only the discounts but also the QC and product support DAZ offers.

     

    You and I have very different experiences with DAZ QC. Look at the number of stray files and misnamed folders in my root DAZ DIM folder.

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,677
    edited 2:36AM

    I've been hopping the store would sell more Filatoon content. I love it. Especially content usable by adult male charcters.

    I don't need mature content.

    Also, wouldn't mind more idealized proportions. We've done  lot with genesis 9 real world proportions, but would like some characters more in the idealized super hero size range. Yes I know I can make my own?

     

     

     

     

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,853

    hjake said:

    3DSaga said:

    OrangeFalcon said:

    barbult said:

    Serene Night said:

    So far, there isn't anything that really does it for me.  Lots of female genesis 9 content and a male mohawk. Tons of that stuff already in the store.

    Look at "What's Hot". Female genital anatomy morphs and pubic hair - multiple of each. I guess we are no longer their target customer.

    When they released those during the Valentine's Day sale I was most displeased.  Then I forgot about them until I also saw them in the What's Hot section.  It'd be nice to have an option to hide products I don't ever want to see, like these.  I'd rather not have this store become Renderotica 2.0, and I just find it really weird to have several products of the same type like that thrown in the banner where I can't hide them at all.

    My reaction is the complete opposite. I'm glad to see this content, especially when it's done with a high level of quality. I'm glad that I can now buy this content here and have not only the discounts but also the QC and product support DAZ offers.

     

    You and I have very different experiences with DAZ QC. Look at the number of stray files and mis-named folders in my root DAZ DIM folder.

    I don't think Daz QC has ever been "good" from a customer perspective. path inconsistencies, folder and file naming inconsistencies, metadata errors, corrective morphs applying to more than the intended character, occasionally even missing files, have been happening for years and continue still.
    Uh oh. I hear echos of Don McLean in my head. "They would not listen, they're not listening still. Perhaps they never will."

  • 3DSaga3DSaga Posts: 479

    Well from my personal experience, it has actually been quite different from what most people here have experienced. I'm going to let it go at that.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,853

    Oh, speaking of support, I got a fix today in DIM for a problem I reported 17 months ago.. When I reported it, I was told it was a "known problem" reported to QA. I don't know if QA never told the PA until recently, or whether the PA didn't fix it promptly after being told. I was surprised to see a fix after so long. Caveat: I haven't tested the fix yet. I hope it is really fixed.

  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 1,174

    barbult said:

    Oh, speaking of support, I got a fix today in DIM for a problem I reported 17 months ago.. When I reported it, I was told it was a "known problem" reported to QA. I don't know if QA never told the PA until recently, or whether the PA didn't fix it promptly after being told. I was surprised to see a fix after so long. Caveat: I haven't tested the fix yet. I hope it is really fixed.

    Heh. A couple(ish) weeks ago I dutifully submitted a crash error log per instructions in the pop-up box.

    I'd forgotten all about it by the time I got a QA email back telling me to duplicate the problem and send them the error log.

    Like... one, I already attached the error log just like it said, and two... duplicate it? It's a crash. And I get that sometimes things consistently crash in the same spots, but that scene I was working on has long since been altered past the point where I could trigger it a second time if it was that sort of thing. Another easy "solved" one for them, I guess, and now I know not to bother submitting crash reports. 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,316

    $4.22 so far. I'm happy as they were both on my wish list.

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  • caravellecaravelle Posts: 2,505
    edited 8:07AM

    I haven't yet been able to take advantage of the additional discounts when buying new releases as I haven't been able to bring myself to buy anything from the new range. On the first day there were a few reasonably interesting things for my WL, but yesterday it was the same as most of the time recently: white chicks, female pubic hair, skimpwear, lingerie, then white chicks again, etc., etc.... Today there are actually two (!) male figures, including one who is about the same age as the Daz women. The other, however, is once again of the (great-)grandpa type so popular with Daz. Remember: women can't be young enough for Daz, men can't be old and ugly enough... Ah, but after a long time there's a black character (female, of course). Sensation!

    Am I the only one who finds all this terribly boring and uninteresting? Does Daz only have (male?) customers who are interested in nothing but Seggs? That would be sad. The Daz+ new releases yesterday were also rather meh for me. Another corridor!!! angryPlus the stairwell. It looks good, but it's also a corridor of sorts. Colm Jackson, whose characters I actually really like, has had better ideas than Geko HD. 

    Well, maybe at some point Daz will have cleared the heaps of white chicks, skimpwear and corridors that are apparently piling up behind the house in Utah, and more interesting things will be published again. 

    Sorry, that was a long rant, but I had to get it off my chest. 

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  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,313
    edited 8:30AM

    SilverGirl said:

    barbult said:

    Oh, speaking of support, I got a fix today in DIM for a problem I reported 17 months ago.. When I reported it, I was told it was a "known problem" reported to QA. I don't know if QA never told the PA until recently, or whether the PA didn't fix it promptly after being told. I was surprised to see a fix after so long. Caveat: I haven't tested the fix yet. I hope it is really fixed.

    Heh. A couple(ish) weeks ago I dutifully submitted a crash error log per instructions in the pop-up box.

    I'd forgotten all about it by the time I got a QA email back telling me to duplicate the problem and send them the error log.

    Like... one, I already attached the error log just like it said, and two... duplicate it? It's a crash. And I get that sometimes things consistently crash in the same spots, but that scene I was working on has long since been altered past the point where I could trigger it a second time if it was that sort of thing. Another easy "solved" one for them, I guess, and now I know not to bother submitting crash reports. 

    They want to know how to duplicate the issue so they can see exactly what is happening, not saying you didn't on this occasion. It's kinda hard to fix stuff when you don't have all the needed info, which is usually the issue. We've tested and duplicate the issue for them before, and they still couldn't duplicate it on their end. There are also several instances where they need several reports from different users to be able to target a certain area. All of this is why it's so important that people give as much detailed info as possible, like every step you took when it happened. This includes if you have done any Windows updates, GPU updates, your system specs, what stuff do you have in your scene when the issue occurred. That info is what helps narrow down where the issue could be on some stuff. I'm betting there are way too many reports that just say it's broke and to fix it, which tells them nothing or where to even start looking. This is why we tend to ask so many question in regard to when sale issues are being reported. This is so we can reproduce it and then wake them up at 3am to get the issue fixed. 

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  • ElorElor Posts: 1,985
    edited 9:08AM

    SilverGirl said:

    Like... one, I already attached the error log just like it said, and two... duplicate it? It's a crash. And I get that sometimes things consistently crash in the same spots, but that scene I was working on has long since been altered past the point where I could trigger it a second time if it was that sort of thing. Another easy "solved" one for them, I guess, and now I know not to bother submitting crash reports. 

    You should continue to open tickets if you have the time to write them because you never know how they'll be answered.

    As an example, a couple of months ago, loading Olympia 9 Young Adult, I saw that her mouth was untextured, so I opened a ticket, got an answer saying they could reproduce the problem on their end, that it was added to their bug trackers and, well, that's it: the problem is not solved yet.

    A month ago, I bough Hanako 9 Pro Bundle, and loading her alternatives shapes, all of them loaded with the Genesis 9 Base textures, the wrong brows and one of them didn't have any icon included in the package.

    Here a screenshot showing most of these problems:

    I had the time to write a ticket, so I did it, without any expectation about it being solved in a timely fashion due to my past experience (to the point that I recreated all the character presets myself, creating an icon for the ones who didn't have any in the process, and I hate creating character preset: it's just so easy to make an mistake, to the point that Daz itself can make mistake too), but lo and behold, every problem reported was solved in less than two weeks surprisesmiley

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  • tsroemitsroemi Posts: 2,882
    edited 9:47AM

    caravelle said:

    I haven't yet been able to take advantage of the additional discounts when buying new releases as I haven't been able to bring myself to buy anything from the new range. On the first day there were a few reasonably interesting things for my WL, but yesterday it was the same as most of the time recently: white chicks, female pubic hair, skimpwear, lingerie, then white chicks again, etc., etc.... Today there are actually two (!) male figures, including one who is about the same age as the Daz women. The other, however, is once again of the (great-)grandpa type so popular with Daz. Remember: women can't be young enough for Daz, men can't be old and ugly enough... Ah, but after a long time there's a black character (female, of course). Sensation!

    Am I the only one who finds all this terribly boring and uninteresting? Does Daz only have (male?) customers who are interested in nothing but Seggs? That would be sad. The Daz+ new releases yesterday were also rather meh for me. Another corridor!!! angryPlus the stairwell. It looks good, but it's also a corridor of sorts. Colm Jackson, whose characters I actually really like, has had better ideas than Geko HD. 

    Well, maybe at some point Daz will have cleared the heaps of white chicks, skimpwear and corridors that are apparently piling up behind the house in Utah, and more interesting things will be published again. 

    Sorry, that was a long rant, but I had to get it off my chest. 

    Same, except for the stairwell which I actually like a lot. But MM itself is off to a very uninteresting start for sure. There's exactly one thing I'd like in today's new releases for me, and it's something 'nice but not important'. It's sure great to be given extra discounts on 'still new' and 'new', but this doesn't help at all when one just doesn't like what's on offer, and there's not much incentive (10% off??! You're kidding, right) for buying the new stuff otherwise. Ah well, this might all still change, we've seen it before.
    Also, the MM artists don't seem to change much, do they? 
     

    Edit: Also also, what's up with the doorway items? They're age old and never change - why??

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  • SilverGirlSilverGirl Posts: 1,174

    Elor said:

    SilverGirl said:

    Like... one, I already attached the error log just like it said, and two... duplicate it? It's a crash. And I get that sometimes things consistently crash in the same spots, but that scene I was working on has long since been altered past the point where I could trigger it a second time if it was that sort of thing. Another easy "solved" one for them, I guess, and now I know not to bother submitting crash reports. 

    You should continue to open tickets if you have the time to write them because you never know how they'll be answered.

    That's the thing, though... time. Most of my online time is via tablet. If I actually get the ability to sit down at a computer and don't have to focus on my own administrative stuff, I want to be making art, not functioning as an unpaid QA tester.

  • richardandtracyrichardandtracy Posts: 5,930

    barbult said:

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    Look at "What's Hot". Female genital anatomy morphs and pubic hair - multiple of each. I guess we are no longer their target customer.

    Yeah, feels a bit seedy really. Usually expect that of other places.

    Regards,

    Richard 

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