Non-photorealistic Renders (NPR)

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  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548

    I tried my usual process but the crosshatching looked way too severe (particularly around the tail). So this time I sent the shaded bit over to Fotosketcher to get a softer 'pencil' effect. Came out nice!

    I also used the Lightroom stuff to carefully prepare the color layer, and it really worked well.

     

    Oh I really like this one!

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,011
    edited April 2017

    Starting to get the hang of this style. If I ever restart my webcomic, I think this is the style I'll use. It's a little timeconsuming, but then again the panels in the webcomic are a lot smaller than the stuff I've been rendering.

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    Starting to get the hang of this style. If I ever restart my webcomic, I think this is the style I'll use. It's a little timeconsuming, but then again the panels in the webcomic are a lot smaller than the stuff I've been rendering.

     

    I like your experiments. I think the images would read better  if you inco-orperated monocular clues to depth perception - eg reduced  contrast, reduced line size etc for far away objects, different hues and saturation etc . I've learnt a lot from your experiments - thanks.

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,011

    Good thoughts. It's tricky, because I juuuust barely have a handle at creating reliable results with what I have.

    And part of the problem is that the style I've been most emulating tends to have limited depth cues (IE; woodcuts)

    But it's worth doing... currently seeing if I can tweak the style more toward Chinese paintings and similar.

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    edited April 2017

    ah I just googled ukiyo-e depth clues, very interesting,

    i'm interested to see where you go with these - the match pallette script in some programes is handy for borrowing pallettes from eg  hokusai

    does studio have an isometric camera?

     

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  • wsterdanwsterdan Posts: 2,348

    I finally picked up GenX2 and the first thing I did was port some Hiros to G3M, in pursuit of my own style. Not nearly as impressive as some of the other stuff here, but so much better than my original effort to hand-morph the same that I had to share.

    (This is Hiro 5 added to somebody or other at 50%.)
     

    I like the character; I'm using combinations of Topaz Clean and Simplify (with a few PhotoShop actions) myself and find I'm enjoying this much more than the years I was using PWToon and related shaders -- there's a certain amount of extra freedom, and the ability to automate the postwork on batches of renders really speeds things up.

    Again, really like the character, well-done!

    -- Walt Sterdan 

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,011

    A Chinese effort (Sumi-e watercolor filter in FilterForge)

     

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  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    A Chinese effort (Sumi-e watercolor filter in FilterForge)

     

    Well, that's really pretty!  :)

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited April 2017

    Comet rendered in Carrara with VectorStyle 2

    https://www.daz3d.com/vectorstyle-2-for-carrara

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited April 2017

    Miss Pannikin rendered in Carrara with VectorStyle 2

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  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,482

    A Chinese effort (Sumi-e watercolor filter in FilterForge)

     

    That's cool. :)

  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,482
    Artini said:

    Comet rendered in Carrara with VectorStyle 2

    https://www.daz3d.com/vectorstyle-2-for-carrara

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    Wow! That has me wondering if I should side-track this summer and try Carrara again. I wish the interface was a little easier to see, although I think at least now you can make the fonts bigger.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited April 2017

    Thanks, firewarden.

    Still trying to figure out, how lights affects VectorStyle 2 renders and how to get the best of it.

    Below are the two renders of Aiko 6.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,011

    If it helps, I'm pretty sure you can do that style in PWToon or LineRender9000 (if those are easier for you).

     

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,011
    edited April 2017

    More playing with FilterForge. Nice thing about more simply 'apply filter' stuff is that I can use Iray, which, for me, is way faster.

    This uses Fern Lake tree, TerraDome3 'archipelago' morph + water, and Iray Skies. Plus an old sea turtle model.

     

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  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,482

    If it helps, I'm pretty sure you can do that style in PWToon or LineRender9000 (if those are easier for you).

     

    Most likely. Carrara and my old eyes do not get along. 

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited April 2017

    Applied Pencil filter in Serif Draw Plus to the iray render of Dante 7.

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  • Kaleb242Kaleb242 Posts: 344

    Nice VectorStyle work, Artini!

    I wish Vector Rendering was possible in Daz Studio... I have VectorStyle 2 for Carrara, but like many others I prefer using Daz Studio 4.9.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462

    Thanks, Kaleb242. I also prefer using Daz Studio 4.9, but could not resist the NPR possibilities in Carrara.

    I have bought VectorStyle 2 a long time ago, during its sale, but have not used it so often until recently.

    I do all posing, putting clothes on the characters in Daz Studio and save all of it as a scene subset.

    That's way, I can simply double click on the saved scene subset in Carrara object browser and

    everything saved appear in Carrara automatically. Very convenient for me, because I am still a beginner

    in Carrara, even though, I have bought it many years ago.

     

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    head wax said:

    ah I just googled ukiyo-e depth clues, very interesting,

    i'm interested to see where you go with these - the match pallette script in some programes is handy for borrowing pallettes from eg  hokusai

    does studio have an isometric camera?

    out of interest ...here's a crappy photo of a traditional acrylic painting i did last year https://www.facebook.com/newcastleartspace/photos/a.148036078736907.1073741828.147816808758834/617727165101127/?type=3 which borrows from  woodcuts  (it was shortlisted along with 10 others for a ten thousand dollar prize - didnt win though...)

    There's a couple of ways to get an isometric(ish) camera in Studio.

    First method is simply selecting a camera and turning off perspective from the camera properties. This removes all perspective from the camera.

    Or, you could physically move the camera very far away and then decrease the focal length. That way you can still have a little perspective if need be.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,462
    edited April 2017

    Another render from Carrara Vector Style 2 of Unicorn:

    https://www.daz3d.com/the-unicorn

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987

    @Artini they are wonderful. I had Vectorstyle many years ago but took it back -wish I didnt now.!

    TheNathanParable thank you for that answer - I noticed the occasional woodblock made with that 'non- perspective'

     

     

  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588
    mmalbert said:

    Thanks again! I've picked up a lot of ideas and inspirations from this thread, so more than happy to share tips.

    Above and beyond the call.  So generous.

    And those images you posted were to die for.

  • djigneodjigneo Posts: 283
    Kaleb242 said:

    Nice VectorStyle work, Artini!

    I wish Vector Rendering was possible in Daz Studio... I have VectorStyle 2 for Carrara, but like many others I prefer using Daz Studio 4.9.

    I concur. I've been theorizing how to approach that sort of thing. If there was a renderman-compliant vector renderer then someone could just make a plug-in to support that from within D|S. The best theory I have at the moment is some sort of post-processing on LineRender9000 line output to convert from raster to vector. Unfortunately, the "detail" sort of lines are not easy because there aren't many programs that do "centerline" tracing and even then they give fairly "noisy" results.

    Getting object / figure outlines as vector is fairly simple in a 2d graphics program and I feel confident that could be automated.

    Another theory would be having some workflow to outsource the rendering to an engine that supports it, but there's a lot of complexity involved there.

    Still noodling on the subject.

  • ToborTobor Posts: 2,300
    Artini said:

    Another render from Carrara Vector Style 2 of Unicorn:

    Thanks for posting these. How are the actual vector files, though? Would you mind posting an EPS or AI, even a simple image of a hammer or plain object would suffice. I'd like to see how easy/hard it is to edit the Beziers. I can see there are a few things in the unicorn that would need to be cleaned up. I'm hoping the conversion to vector doesn't convolute the outlines too much.

  • Artini said:

    Thanks, firewarden.

    Still trying to figure out, how lights affects VectorStyle 2 renders and how to get the best of it.

    Below are the two renders of Aiko 6.

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    Seeing this makes me very excited that I picked up Carrera while it was on sale. Is the VectorStyle2 part of the base package, or is it an add-on?

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    edited April 2017

    Needed an illustration for a detective story, so I played around with the noir technique I've been using lately. The figure is M4 with some OLD Poser 4 hair (it tends to look better with this technique). I composited several renders made with the Poser 11 Live Comic Book Preview. The sketch effects were created in Akvis Sketch, and scaled up about 400% (in other words, the source renders were 4000 px wide, and I created a Firefly render of the image in Poser, rendered at only 100 px wide - I then scaled it up in Photoshop. I did this because I wanted the sketch effects to be VERY rough so they would show up well while I was scaling the image.

    The middle, sketchy image, was created by adding a tone effect in Manga Studio and using the blue region as a mask. I then edited it by hand so it would spill out in certain areas. 

    I'm torn between the dark blue and the sketchy images, although I'm leaning toward using the sketchy image. Any thoughts or preferences? 
    (BTW: I really suggest looking at these full-size – the smaller versions are missing a lot of detail.)

       Simple Blue

      Sketchy

     Dark Blue

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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    edited April 2017
    head wax said:

    Dwarf with cat rendered in Carrara 

    With post work done by combining different render passes from the Carrara engines ;) 

    This is a VERY cool painted effect. I would never guess this started out as 3D. Seeing output like this makes me excited to try my hand at Carrera, which I finally bought last week during the March Maddness Sale. Got it for around $20-$24, if I recall correctly.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,011

    I was attempting to capture the art style of D&D 5e: http://images.geeknative.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/dnd-5e-barbarian.jpg

    Concept is a ranger variant that bonds more completely with a wolf companion.

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,987
    head wax said:

    Dwarf with cat rendered in Carrara 

    With post work done by combining different render passes from the Carrara engines ;) 

    This is a VERY cool painted effect. I would never guess this started out as 3D. Seeing output like this makes me excited to try my hand at Carrera, which I finally bought last week during the March Maddness Sale. Got it for around $20-$24, if I recall correctly.

    Hey thanks, yes Carrara has so much potentil - out of the box :)

     

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