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  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549
    Oso3D said:

    I'm not 100% sure this belongs in this thread, but... Iray render, bunch of Ron's Brushes, then Fotosketcher.

     

     

    Doesn't matter if it was done in IRAY as long as it has a painted or drawn look.

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549
    edited December 2017

    Intergalactic Oasis

    Intergalactic Oasis by tkdrobert

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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    tkdrobert said:

    Intergalactic Oasis

    Intergalactic Oasis by tkdrobert

    Very nice, and I do enjoy seeing a spaceship that's not just gray or white. The composition is good, but I'm having a little issue with the colors. They are too close in saturdation levels, if you know what I mean. Everything is so vivid that they all kind of blend together. I would expect the background colors to be lighter, which would enhance the sense of depth. Just a thought. I do like the overall design of the ship and the buildings. Very nicely done.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    Oso3D said:

    I'm not 100% sure this belongs in this thread, but... Iray render, bunch of Ron's Brushes, then Fotosketcher.

     

    It absolutely belongs here. This has the painterly look that takes this to another level beyond a straight render. I particularly like the water dripping from his mouth. Nicely done.

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549
    mmitchell_houston said:
    tkdrobert said:

    Intergalactic Oasis

    Intergalactic Oasis by tkdrobert

    Very nice, and I do enjoy seeing a spaceship that's not just gray or white. The composition is good, but I'm having a little issue with the colors. They are too close in saturdation levels, if you know what I mean. Everything is so vivid that they all kind of blend together. I would expect the background colors to be lighter, which would enhance the sense of depth. Just a thought. I do like the overall design of the ship and the buildings. Very nicely done.

    I thought the colors were pretty. laugh

  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,011

    Mitchell: I often feel intimidated by Ron’s brushes because I can’t get them to a level I feel matches the realism.

    But it’s amazing with art filters; even a slight drop in detail helps blend it together.

    And given there are lots of effects that are hard to generate realistically... I just Love how it all comes together.

     

    As an aside, happy holidays, everyone!

    And please consider giving to aid to Puerto Rico. I have at least one cousin there still without power. :/

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    tkdrobert said:
    mmitchell_houston said:
    tkdrobert said:

    Intergalactic Oasis

    Intergalactic Oasis by tkdrobert

    Very nice, and I do enjoy seeing a spaceship that's not just gray or white. The composition is good, but I'm having a little issue with the colors. They are too close in saturdation levels, if you know what I mean. Everything is so vivid that they all kind of blend together. I would expect the background colors to be lighter, which would enhance the sense of depth. Just a thought. I do like the overall design of the ship and the buildings. Very nicely done.

    I thought the colors were pretty. laugh

    They were!

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    Oso3D said:

    Mitchell: I often feel intimidated by Ron’s brushes because I can’t get them to a level I feel matches the realism.

    But it’s amazing with art filters; even a slight drop in detail helps blend it together.

    And given there are lots of effects that are hard to generate realistically... I just Love how it all comes together.

     

    As an aside, happy holidays, everyone!

    And please consider giving to aid to Puerto Rico. I have at least one cousin there still without power. :/

    I know what you mean about the various brushes and effects. People who only do traditional (i.e. non-digital) art often say that we let the computer do everything for us. But the reality is, these are all tools, and they can take years to master, just as it can take years to master pen/paper or brush/canvas.

     

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484

    Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone!

    I hope everyone has a great holiday, and that we all hit the ground running -- so to speak -- and make great art in the new year!

  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191
    tkdrobert said:

    Intergalactic Oasis

    I love this! Unlike MM, I don't find the saturated colors too much or too close. My eye is drawn to the spaceship nicely with the composition and everything else fades into the background without being lost. I guess saturation is one of those things that are a personal taste, some like it and some don't. I think it's a great composition and the colors go together very well. It really draws me in.

     

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 908
    edited December 2017

    Merry Christmas everyone....Santa's New Sleigh ​I did a few years ago in 2010. Rendered in Vue. I modeled Santa's hot rod in Sketchup and painted in the Santa figure in via ArtRage. I used Photoshop and Topaz Adjust to give the image a paintery look...

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  • kenmokenmo Posts: 908
    edited December 2017

    Another Poser 11.1 comic book render of a model I was working on and never quite finished... "Mr Bug"

     

    Crosshatching is via some Photoshop chicanery (Filter Forge 7.0).

     

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  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588
    mmitchell_houston said:
    kenmo said:

    Playing with another model I was working on. I start models then get side tracked by my photography and forget about completing them. This model is not textured yet nor is it quite completed. However I just wanted to do a comic book render in Poser 11.1 using mmitchel_houston's tutorial as a guideline.

    This time I also added some color and texture overlay in Photoshop. The crosshatching was done in Photoshop via Filter Forge 7 plugin...

    This looks VERY nice. I like the cross-hatching effect, and the simple color overlay is very effective.

     

    kenmo said:

    Here's the same image with a little Photoshop chicanery via Topaz Studio Impression and Filter Forge plugins...and a Photoshop LUT (color lookup filter).

    Another nice job, especially for a "quickie." The little sketch effects are nice -- they give it a hand-drawn look tht is very pleasing. And thanks for making the retro rocketship available. I could have really used this a year or two ago when i was doing illustrations for a Sci-Fi RPG (images at my blog, just look for the "Galaxy Prime" tag).

    + 100!  Really like what you did with the "unfinished " model.  Only things to add are, 1) Kenmo, you are very talented, and 2) I just downloaded your awesome retro ship.yes

  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588

     

    I posted this in the Carrara forum NPR thread, but I figure that most of you guys never have time to visit there.

    This is my version of a classic Gary Larson "The Far Side" cartoon.  The characters are all Daz original generation 3.

    The workflow was basically Carrara with the GMIC plugin (Lylejk filter)>Comic Life (for captions only)>PSE (for bottom title only)>Fotosketcher (Pencil sketch 1filter).

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  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588
    mmitchell_houston said:

    I really cannot express how much your words mean to me. I invested a lot of time in that tutorial, and knowing that even one person has found it useful is very gratifying.

    Mike, count me as another one who is looking forward to reading and applying your material (Headwax clued me onto it).  I bookmarked it a couple of months ago.  The problem for me is being pulled in too many useful directions at once (for example, I just downloaded FF 6, never used it before) and finding enough hours in the day to explore tutorials, new products and software- and oh yeah, actually do some rendering.smiley

    So, thanking you in advance.  Your efforts are much appreciated!

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 908
    UnifiedBrain said:

     

    I posted this in the Carrara forum NPR thread, but I figure that most of you guys never have time to visit there.

    This is my version of a classic Gary Larson "The Far Side" cartoon.  The characters are all Daz original generation 3.

    The workflow was basically Carrara with the GMIC plugin (Lylejk filter)>Comic Life (for captions only)>PSE (for bottom title only)>Fotosketcher (Pencil sketch 1filter).

    Love what you did here... Looks awesome...

  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588

    Thanks Kenmo!

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549
    edited December 2017

    Battle of Hoth

    Originally done in IRAY and filtered using Simplicity.

    Battle of Hoth II by tkdrobert

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  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549
    edited December 2017

    Gave it another go with a different angle.

    Battle of Hoth IV by tkdrobert

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  • KnittingmommyKnittingmommy Posts: 8,191

    I love the new angle. It seems to indicate more movement and reminds me of a shot as if viewed from one of the fighter ships. You did something different with a filter, too, didn't you? I like the new look better. Seems a little more vibrant.

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549
    edited December 2017
    Knittingmommy said:

    I love the new angle. It seems to indicate more movement and reminds me of a shot as if viewed from one of the fighter ships. You did something different with a filter, too, didn't you? I like the new look better. Seems a little more vibrant.

    Yeah I played around a lot with Simplicity's filters.  Truth be told, I couldn't reproduce the effect of the first one.  At least not to my liking.

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  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549

    So, turns out I was able to upgrade my Poser Debut to Poser 11 for $50.   I mainly got Poser 11 so I can use the Comic Book render functions.  Problem is I have no idea how to use Poser.  I never came close to Mastering Debut.  I discovered DAZ soon after I baught Dubut.  Although I use a lot of Poser assets in DAZ, I don't really know how to pose or change surfaces, etc.  In other words, I have a lot of questions for you Poser users.  I know you all have posted links to tutorials in the past but I'd rather not search through this 88 page thread for them.  Daz forums need to improve their search functions.  I like doing color comics, so if you all don't mind posting links to your favorite tutorials or send them to me PM, I would be most greatful. smileyheart 

    Not sure I made a wise decision buying this so we'll see.  I bought Bryce last year and I never use it.

  • tkdroberttkdrobert Posts: 3,549

    This site has a lot on info on it.  I'll probably start here.

    http://www.jurn.org/dazposer/

  • kenmokenmo Posts: 908

    Once you get comfortable in Poser then head to Mike Mitchell's excellent blog on Poser and comics. Really helped me..

    https://mikemitchellonline.blogspot.ca/2017/07/noir-style-tutorial-pt-7-step-2-turn-on.html

     

    Renderosity has some good tutorials on Poser on youtibe.

     And although I have owned Poser since Poser 7 and recently upgraded to Poser Pro 11.1, I've always felt more comfortable in DAZ but after spending some time with Poser, I concluded  the two programs are very close.

     

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    edited December 2017
    tkdrobert said:

    So, turns out I was able to upgrade my Poser Debut to Poser 11 for $50.   I mainly got Poser 11 so I can use the Comic Book render functions.  Problem is I have no idea how to use Poser.  I never came close to Mastering Debut.  I discovered DAZ soon after I baught Dubut.  Although I use a lot of Poser assets in DAZ, I don't really know how to pose or change surfaces, etc.  In other words, I have a lot of questions for you Poser users.  I know you all have posted links to tutorials in the past but I'd rather not search through this 88 page thread for them.  Daz forums need to improve their search functions.  I like doing color comics, so if you all don't mind posting links to your favorite tutorials or send them to me PM, I would be most greatful. smileyheart 

    Not sure I made a wise decision buying this so we'll see.  I bought Bryce last year and I never use it.

    I'm guessing that you don't use Bryce for the same reason I don't -- it is primarily a landscape program and we're focusing on comics. In other words, it's not quite the right tool for the job, especially when you consider the leaps and bounds that have been made in render quality with Iray and Superfly in the past few years.

    Here are a few video links that I found useful:

    Poser Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mivlWsnBx30 

    Poser 2: Managing your Runtime: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKVhCTcjLjI

    Long tutorial, but good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZrhQ_f8Q28

    Note: There's a decent chance these will get snipped, so I'll PM them to you, as well.

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    I hate to toot my own horn, but after you get the basics of posing down, I would also suggest dropping by my blog to take a look at my tutorial on using the Comic Book Preview to make comics. I think that is really the one big thing that Poser is currently doing better than Daz Studio. 

    Kenmo pointed you to the tutorial step that specifically disucsses how to turn on the Comic Book Preview. Here's a link to the entire (100% work safe, no ads) tutorial: http://mikemitchellonline.blogspot.com/2017/09/noir-style-tutorial-pt-21-contents.html

     

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  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    kenmo said:

    Once you get comfortable in Poser then head to Mike Mitchell's excellent blog on Poser and comics. Really helped me..

    https://mikemitchellonline.blogspot.ca/2017/07/noir-style-tutorial-pt-7-step-2-turn-on.html

    Thank you very much! BTW: I followed the link to that particular post and decided to update it a little (plus fix a typo). You might want to take a glance at it -- I added a summary of the effects of the display style on the final rener. It's a short bullet list near the bottom. 

    Maybe sometime next year I'll take another pass at this and fix the typos and flesh things out more.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484

    Speaking of my blog, I'm also doing a series of articles about my work on my new comic project, DAYS GONE. If anyone is interested, here's the stream of articles: https://mikemitchellonline.blogspot.com/search/label/days%20gone

    There are also a few more in the queue, but I need to edit them before posting them. I'm hoping to get another two or three posts out this year.

     

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    tkdrobert said:

    Gave it another go with a different angle.

    Battle of Hoth IV by tkdrobert

    This one is a winner! That dynamic angle really changes everything, as does the increase in blur. It just gives it a sense of movement that is exhilarating. 

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    UnifiedBrain said:

     

    I posted this in the Carrara forum NPR thread, but I figure that most of you guys never have time to visit there.

    This is my version of a classic Gary Larson "The Far Side" cartoon.  The characters are all Daz original generation 3.

    The workflow was basically Carrara with the GMIC plugin (Lylejk filter)>Comic Life (for captions only)>PSE (for bottom title only)>Fotosketcher (Pencil sketch 1filter).

    HAH! I love the original comic, and your D&D-style take on it is funnnnny. I think your sketch effect is ver effective in this comic, as are your character choices for the different examples.

  • mmitchell_houstonmmitchell_houston Posts: 2,484
    kenmo said:

    Merry Christmas everyone....Santa's New Sleigh ​I did a few years ago in 2010. Rendered in Vue. I modeled Santa's hot rod in Sketchup and painted in the Santa figure in via ArtRage. I used Photoshop and Topaz Adjust to give the image a paintery look...

    I like this. Definitely the sort of thing that brings a smile to my face this time of year.

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