Genesis 8 or 8.1 shapes on genesis 9?
milliethegreat
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Is there, will there, or can you please add a way to Genesis 8 or 8.1 shapes on genesis 9? I think that's a feature EVERYONE (with genesis 8 or 8.1) can use (myself) as I don't anyone in our shoes wants to ditch our ENTIRE genesis 8/8.1 shapes/morphs library and start completely from scratch with a completely new library. Talk about a blow to the wallet! Umph! Backwards compatibly with 8/8.1 figures morphs and shapes is a MUST-or at least a script to convert 8/8.1 shapes to 9 like the ones for 3 to 8 that I bought a while ago! Any thoughts? I (and no one else ON EARTH) wants to throw away and ENTIRE library and start all over! That's madness. PLEASE ADD BACKWARDS COMPATIBILITY FOR 8/8.1 SHAPES ON 9!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's LUDICROUS not to!!! Geez guys! ESPECIALLY when there's SO MUCH 8/8.1 stuff out there and bound to be more! If anything you'd get more people buy 9 shapes and stuff to combine with our 8/8.1 collections!
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The G9 geometry is completely different from G8F/G8M, a converter would need to create two virtual models, one for the source figure and another for G9, then it would need to calculate movement for each vertex on the G9, based on movement of nearby vertices on the source figure. The task is made even more difficult with the unisex (barn door) mesh of the G9.
I'd say the same thing goes for genesis 8/8.1 poses on genesis 9
That is much easier as it is just dealing with translation of bone names and their coordinates /rotation, wouldn't take many hours in a spreadsheet.
I just did it
took 10 mins
dial in clone shape
base resolution convert to prop, G8m transfer utilty (did need to pose legs-6.35)
dial up Dolb hide G8M
export obj
morphloader G9
adjust rigging to figure shape
select morph edit mode ERC freeze
save as support asset morph
so can it (or will it ever) be a thing? Because if not I'm like 100% screwed and I (and many others) will be 100% FREAKING PISSED! It NEEDS to be a thing! I repeat it NEEDS to be a thing! Because idk about y'all but I'm likely more than totally pissed, I almost got so mad I almost flung my multi-hundred dollar custom workstation computer of the desk onto the floor and punched my monitor out of rage! Luckily none of that took place! But I strongly doubt I'm not the only one!
A tutorial video is better for me (I have slight mental health issues that learning make some things more difficult than "normal" people) because that's gibberish to me!
A tutorial video is better for me (I have slight mental health issues that learning make some things more difficult than "normal" people) because that's gibberish to me!
DAZ needs to endorse it, that's the main hurdle, pretty sure DiscoBob and Zev0 could do it
A tutorial video is better for me (I have slight mental health issues that learning make some things more difficult than "normal" people) because that's gibberish to me!
Now, do it again for the remaining 10 thousand G8M and 30 thousand G8F morphs
That is where the mathematics are required
there are some I am sure
I am the opposite
cannot stand video tutorials, I like a nice PDF
that said, I am not great at either
ummm what I found
searching
for 8/8.1 to 9 please. That's what I need to accomplish?
it's been a day mate and ain't getting one from me
I look on a new figure to be an opportunity to create something new.
I can use G8 for g8 stuff just fine.
Like the G9 shader for viccy?
well just transfer it back; save shader then load shader
If that is the method I think it should apply to the new figure too.
hopefully it's not overly complicated for people (like me) who are errrrr slightly mentally impaired (special needs folks like myself) to a very slight yet high functioning level, we have harder time figuring out (and sometimes much easier time) than "normal" people and a lot of people who explain or make tutorials don't take that into account when doing so. So please bare with me and all my numerous (and stupid/obvious) questions and needs for clarification or specifics. Thanks
Transferring morph isn't hard. It's a breeze. Transferring textures are hard. And right now, no UV map products to use with the G8 characters too.
Also I can't open that tutorial without signing up for a YouTube account and a Google account! I DO NOT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD want to do any of that as I'm traumatized from getting hacked via my old Google accounts! I lost everything shy of my home and most of my money in my SSDI bank account due to the hacking with ZERO way ti get it back and refuse to get another Google account Microsoft account (that was used to hack my computer and some files-nothing important than goodness-were stolen before I unplugged rapidly my computer thus irreparably damaging my motherboard and power supply costing me my entire month and a half of SSDI discretionary s worth of loans to replace it) due to my (diagnosed professionally) additional PTSD! I lost $100s from my (now terminated) old SSDI account, my business (which I restarted from scratch) all my gaming accounts my cgtrader account my old Daz account my turbosquid account ArtStation account rendering engine accounts my old PayPal account and many many many other accounts worth $1000s in losses! So PLEASE for the love of god find that (or some other similar) tutorial that DOES NOT require a Google Microsoft one drive or YouTube account! I don't need t o get hacked and start almost my entire life (not hyperbole) from scratch all over again! I really really really don't! Thank you very much.
you don't have a burner phone or email?
how on earth do you do stuff online?
everyone I know has more than one account for stuff you don't want to risk identifying yourself, nothing illegal just to be safe
mine has my late cat's name
I can't afford a second phone and I have iCloud aliases and my main iCloud email. One appleid and my online shopping subscriptions and gaming accounts and other accounts are tied to them. There's very few things that if I wanted to use them I would require a Google/Microsoft account (like that tutorial) but I still avoid Google and Microsoft accounts like they're Covid-19! Sooooo....any tutorial like that that DOESNT require a Google or Microsoft account. Because I'd rather get long Covid than sign up for a Google or Microsoft account. Just saying.
To clarify why I don't have a second phone....I'm technically poor. My parents provide everything for me housing food money my computers my art yada yada yada oh yeah and the one phone I do have. Because goodness knows I can't even feed myself let alone house myself or anything else if I had to finance my own life completely on my own. I'd literally be in a homeless shelter if that was the case. Just saying.
Well I figured somebody might want a tutorial to move some shapes from 8 to 9 so there are images already in the editing basket. But please take some time to chill. Rome wasn't built in a day as they say.
It might be ready to post in a day or three. The forums keep timing out so it's too frustrating trying to upload a series of images. I upload to Renderosity - there is no charge to sign up there for an account. Then one can download whichever freebies they so desire.
Would someone, please, translate WendyLuvzCatz explanation into a proper list of instructions without acronyms and abbreviations that are meaningless to many of us? E.g. "Dial in clone shape" How? Where is that? I've been using DS regularly since v1 and I do not know what that is. "dial up Dolb hide G8M" What is Dolb? "select morph edit mode ERC freeze" What is ERC? I appreciate WLC's expertice, and their willingness to try to help. But the explanation is just too terse and cryptic to be of much use to me.
does look terrible, when you perform this procedure with face morphs
the tutorial that video uses
https://www.deviantart.com/sickleyield/journal/Tutorial-Transferring-Character-Morphs-G1G2G3G8-409437916
Video which is not affiliated with the tutorial is restricted to 18+ as character has huge naked breasts, only linked as you said you did not want to read
Ok I read (to the best I could understand) and the process wasn't exactly torture but I have another question. Morph loader pro? Transfer utility? That doesn't work on genesis 9. At least when I first saw it a while ago. So I guess it's back to square one? Me being completely screwed and either never using genesis 9 or starting my library all over again with genesis 9? Great! Nice thing for me to find out when I first wake up roll out of bed and turn on my computer. I'm gonna need an expresso and maybe some hard liquor. I see a really wicked bad hangover in my very near future. Good thing I work from and do my leisure activities from home ;)
morphloader works on everything
figures, objects, primitives
the mesh vertex count of the object you are importing with the target thing selected just has to match
transfer utility certainly works on G9 too, its how you attach imported meshes of clothing etc you modelled elsewhere
they just have to load in position imported
if you are a beginner TBH you are best off waiting if committing to G9 or buying G8 and earlier stuff when cheap,
grab freebies off shareCG etc
G9 is new there isn't much around for it yet
I not used a transfer utility, because with that you can't transfer textures too, i used a WRAP tool to do that:
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