Is there any need for classic Hollywood G9 head morphs?

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  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @nonesuch00 - Thank you. laugh

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Gregory Peck (Magnificent G9). WIP but already looking good imo. smiley

     

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    AOBB said:

    Gregory Peck (Magnificent G9). WIP but already looking good imo. smiley

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    I have heard of him but never saw him in a movie. I sill see what he's in.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    There are so many wonderful movies with Gregory Peck. The two movies that really stand out are "Roman Holiday" with the young and delightful Audrey Hepburn and "To Kill A Mockingbird". I also liked Hitchcock's "Spellbound" with Ingrid Bergman - there is great chemistry between Peck and Bergman and apparently they had a love affair during the making of this movie. Cannot blame them - two such gorgeous people... A movie I really liked with him too was "The Scarlet and The Black" with the fantastic Christopher Plummer. I believe it is a TV movie but it is excellent. It is about the Vatican during WWII. Another movie about an atomic war with Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner was "On The Beach". I don't remember it very well but I believe it was a good movie.

    If there is one movie with Gregory Peck you should watch, because it sort of defined his career it is "To Kill a Mockingbird". Personally, I would rather watch "Roman Holiday" but that's just me. wink

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120
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    AOBB said:

    There are so many wonderful movies with Gregory Peck. The two movies that really stand out are "Roman Holiday" with the young and delightful Audrey Hepburn and "To Kill A Mockingbird". I also liked Hitchcock's "Spellbound" with Ingrid Bergman - there is great chemistry between Peck and Bergman and apparently they had a love affair during the making of this movie. Cannot blame them - two such gorgeous people... A movie I really liked with him too was "The Scarlet and The Black" with the fantastic Christopher Plummer. I believe it is a TV movie but it is excellent. It is about the Vatican during WWII. Another movie about an atomic war with Gregory Peck and Ava Gardner was "On The Beach". I don't remember it very well but I believe it was a good movie.

    If there is one movie with Gregory Peck you should watch, because it sort of defined his career it is "To Kill a Mockingbird". Personally, I would rather watch "Roman Holiday" but that's just me. wink

    I will watch Roman Holiday then because it's freely available on streaming TV to watch and because I have read the book To Kill A Mockingbird and was mesmerized by the writing, particularly by Scout & Dill, who I recognized as also being characters in Truman Capote's book, Other Voices, Other Rooms, as well. I know a movie can't come close to that writing, so don't want to watch the movie.

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  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Good choice, nonesuch00yes Roman Holiday is absolutely charming and great fun in a romatic sort of way. It was Audrey Hepburn's first big-time screen debut. Gregory Peck, an established star by then, demanded that Hepburn receive equal billing on the posters for the movie, he was so impressed with her performance. A gorgeous movie. I hope you will enjoy it, even though it is a "chick flick". I think it is actually much more than that.... smiley

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Hi there,

    I have created an album in my gallery with unpublished images of the actresses' and actors' head sculpts that will be part of my freebie Classic Movie Stars collection. I'm not publishing the images, because I still consider these sculpts as WIPs. These are not all the sculpts I am working on at the moment but the rest is still not ready to be shown. Please have a look and let me know what you think! smiley

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6420504982323200?edit=album#gallery=album8943506

    I made this album for a friend but thought I might share it with you too...

    Cheers,

    AOBB 

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    AOBB said:

    Hi there,

    I have created an album in my gallery with unpublished images of the actresses' and actors' head sculpts that will be part of my freebie Classic Movie Stars collection. I'm not publishing the images, because I still consider these sculpts as WIPs. These are not all the sculpts I am working on at the moment but the rest is still not ready to be shown. Please have a look and let me know what you think! smiley

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6420504982323200?edit=album#gallery=album8943506

    I made this album for a friend but thought I might share it with you too...

    Cheers,

    AOBB 

    Those are all so good. I think next time I do a render that I want to be challenged on I will render that scene in "Breakfast at Tiffany's" where she is outside in the rain on an a Manhattan street while she is holding and petting a cat while speaking to George Peppard.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @nonesuch00 - Thank you for liking my work so far! smileyyes

    That scene you are referring to was really great. You'll have to age "my" Audrey a little bit, because she is very young as a sculpt and in "Breakfast..." she was in her early thirties. Not much aging - just a bit. I love it when Audrey sings "Moon River" on the fire escape stairs in "Breakfast...". She did it with such sweet emotion. I have a huge soft spot both for her and Marilyn - for each one in a different way.

  • I can't see anything. : (

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @wondergirl0706 - I understand that you clicked on the link I posted above. Here it is again:

    https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/user/6420504982323200?edit=album#gallery=album8943506

    What happened next? Did you get into my gallery? You should be in the "Classic Movie Star Collection" album. There, scroll down to the unpublished images and you will see renders of the actors I have posted. Please try again and let me know what exactly isn't working for you. I hope you will have more luck this time.

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    AOBB said:

    @nonesuch00 - Thank you for liking my work so far! smileyyes

    That scene you are referring to was really great. You'll have to age "my" Audrey a little bit, because she is very young as a sculpt and in "Breakfast..." she was in her early thirties. Not much aging - just a bit. I love it when Audrey sings "Moon River" on the fire escape stairs in "Breakfast...". She did it with such sweet emotion. I have a huge soft spot both for her and Marilyn - for each one in a different way.

    Oh, now I must watch again. laugh

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @nonesuch00 - watching Audrey is always a good idea! laugh

  • AOBB, you've been busy! All the morphs showcased in your gallery are incredible! You are really super talented to capture such a variety of faces, characters and personalities so sincerely and accurately in your sculpts. Amazing work, my dear friend. heart
    I have to say your James Dean, wow wow wow! Insanely good sculpt! yes
    I read here I think, that you're working 13 hours a day on these? I hope you are taking breaks to get out, and are taking care of yourself! heart

    Oh, I'm not able to see that new album link that you posted either. I thought unpublished images only show up for the account holder. When you try opening the link in an incognito window or when you're logged out, are you able to see the unpublished images? I only see your regular gallery...

    I need to stop by here more often. Catch you soon! smiley

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @SapphireBlue - Hello, my dear! So good to hear from you. Thank you for your kind words about my gallery images and my head sculpts. Don't worry I take care of myself. I go out, sleep as much as I can (I am an insomniac, so my sleeping is sketchy but I try to get at least six hours per night).

    Thank you for letting me know what the problem is with the unpublished album images! I have logged out and indeed couldn't see them either! I'll think of something so you all can see my latest work.

    Please drop by more often, LI. I love chatting with you, my friend!smiley

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Here are my sculpts as they look like now. Hope you like them. 

    In case you have a problem recognizing who is who, here is the "cast" list:

    First row: Audrey Hepburn, Ava Gardner, Elizabeth Taylor

    Second row: Grace Kelly. Gregory Peck, Ingrid Bergman

    Third row: James Dean, Judy Garland, Lauren Bacall

    Fourth row: Marilyn Monroe, Rita Hayworth, Robert Mitchum

    Enjoy and please let me know what you think about my sculpts! Constructive criticism is welcome. smiley

    Cheers,

     

    AOBB

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    I'm not familar enough with all of the stars in real life to know definiitivly which have been improved from your prior sculpts, but the ones I do recognize and that I saw in your prior sculpts of before they all look improved, most especially Marilyn Monroe. 

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957
    edited October 2023

    @nonesuch00 - I'm so glad to hear that! My friend ,for whom I made those renders, and her husband recognized everyone in the images, except for Rita Hayworth whom they weren't familiar with. I'm working hard to make all the models recognizable. Maybe they won't be 100% likenesses but let's say 75% and I want to capture their essence. I worked on Sweetheart especially hard, because I had such a hard time understanding her face before and making her ended with a so-so result.

    Today I have worked on Cary Grant and Clark Gable. I don't have hair for them, so it is a bit of a guessing game. I tried the Vintage Male Hair and a couple of the shorter hair models but they don't work for either of the gentlemen. I really wish DAZ would have in their store those slick 30s and 40s clean cut hair styles for men and the refined hairdos for women. I guess it might be a lot of work to make those in 3d but I personally would be willing to pay big bucks for them...

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    AOBB said:

    @nonesuch00 - I'm so glad to hear that! My friend ,for whom I made those renders, and her husband recognized everyone in the images, except for Rita Hayworth whom they weren't familiar with. I'm working hard to make all the models recognizable. Maybe they won't be 100% likenesses but let's say 75% and I want to capture their essence. I worked on Sweetheart especially hard, because I had such a hard time understanding her face before and making her ended with a so-so result.

    Today I have worked on Cary Grant and Clark Gable. I don't have hair for them, so it is a bit of a guessing game. I tried the Vintage Male Hair and a couple of the shorter hair models but they don't work for either of the gentlemen. I really wish DAZ would have in their store those slick 30s and 40s clean cut hair styles for men and the refined hairdos for women. I guess it might be a lot of work to make those in 3d but I personally would be willing to pay big bucks for them...

    For me,many I would not recognize their actual pictures either, so don't take that wrong. I would also love 1890s - 1960s compresive hairdo library. I think DAZ has 70s onward pretty well covered.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    @nonesuch00 - I understand and wasn't getting you wrong. As for such a hair library, I'm all for it.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    Okay, so I've managed to make him despite some negative feelings that were coming up for me while doing this sculpt. I'll probably tweak him a bit but he's mostly ready - the Burt Lancaster likeness. I thought I'd attach a picture of the real actor for comparison. Enjoy! smiley Still haven't come up with a name for this head morph.

     

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  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    One more likeness for those interested: Vivien Leigh as Scarlett O'Hara (also WIP but almost finished):

     

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120

    Vivian Leigh I knew right away, but Burt Lancaster I did not, maybe because of what seems like a perpetual smirk on the real Burt Lancaster's face is not there. When I compare the picture and your sculpt I don't see anything to fault so I'm not sure why I didn't recognize him. I have seen him in movies before.

    When I look at your sculpts again, I have to admit, they are both impressive.

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    I agree - Burt's likeness is off. He will get a couple more rounds of tweaking.

    I like to post an image of an unfinished sculpt and get feedback but also to look at it with a fresh eye. Somehow uploading a render of the sculpt to the forum makes me see it in a different light. I cannot explain it - my brain just works this weird way.

    Thank you for your liking my work, nonesuch00. I can always rely on your honest feedback. smileyyes

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,120
    edited October 2023

    AOBB said:

    I agree - Burt's likeness is off. He will get a couple more rounds of tweaking.

    I like to post an image of an unfinished sculpt and get feedback but also to look at it with a fresh eye. Somehow uploading a render of the sculpt to the forum makes me see it in a different light. I cannot explain it - my brain just works this weird way.

    Thank you for your liking my work, nonesuch00. I can always rely on your honest feedback. smileyyes

     

    I think his dimples are more pronouced so does that mean his teeth are somewhat receded relative to his upper and lower jaws than is typical?

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  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957

    As far as I understand dimples have something to do with the facial muscles, not bone structure.

  • nonesuch00 said:

    Vivian Leigh I knew right away, but Burt Lancaster I did not, maybe because of what seems like a perpetual smirk on the real Burt Lancaster's face is not there. When I compare the picture and your sculpt I don't see anything to fault so I'm not sure why I didn't recognize him. I have seen him in movies before.

    When I look at your sculpts again, I have to admit, they are both impressive.

    Not as much a Lancaster fan, but I see what you mean about the smirk in the B&W photo.  It's not quite invisible:  the sculpt needs to catch it in the corners of his eyes.  And the dimples (which are indeed a muscle effect, rather than a skeletal one) do need to be more pronounced.  Great job on all of these, @AOBB.  For Burt, may I suggest the title "Desert Fury" from his first film?

  • AOBBAOBB Posts: 957
    edited October 2023

    Eustace Scrubb - Yes, I see now that my Burt Lancaster sculpt needs more TLC. BTW, thank you for appreciating my work! smiley As for "Desert Fury" Lancaster was known for his explosive temper, so it kind of fits but it wouldn't work as a head morph name. Nevertheless thanks for the suggestion. yes

    Here's another actor (WIP) - try guessing who that is! I hope it won't be too difficult... wink

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • The facial bones look right for Tommy Kirk but the lines are too old for when he was acting.

  • wondergirl0706wondergirl0706 Posts: 19
    edited October 2023

    AOBB said:

    Eustace Scrubb - Yes, I see now that my Burt Lancaster sculpt needs more TLC. BTW, thank you for appreciating my work! smiley As for "Desert Fury" Lancaster was known for his explosive temper, so it kind of fits but it wouldn't work as a head morph name. Nevertheless thanks for the suggestion. yes

    Here's another actor (WIP) - try guessing who that is! I hope it won't be too difficult... wink

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    It's Clark Gable.

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