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I just wish they had increased the price. We get too much for free. The Premier should be 100$ a month. Daz has the best render engine of any engine on the market. Its soo streamlined and beats Unreal. This is a FaNtAsTiC offer. Thank you Daz!
Oh! I didn't even see that advertised. Does this mean the 2 week timeframe is just for today, or is that how tokens will be going forward?
Quoting DAZ_Steve:
"It's a different offer for each person. We take what you paid for the membership you currently have, see how many months of Premier that equates to, then round up (so we give you a full month of Premier instead of a partial one.)"
Only this as far as I'm aware, https://www.daz3d.com/mixamo-rigged-genesis-9-character
Agree 1000%
According to the tokens page, tokens now have two weeks expiry date. There's no note of it being a temporary thing, but whether it'll last (Daz has changed tokens around in the past, including completely removing them for a time being), it remains to be seen.
pity they don't factor in the ownership of the items that now apparently come free with the subscription. Some of us bought the head and body morph sets for each generation, so getting those for free doesn't really make for a reason to subscribe. but clearly the offer was designed by the accounting department to offer the least possible.
Thank you for explaining. However penalizing someone for taking advantage of a sale so you can spend even more makes no sense if they want to convince people to switch to the new Premier subscription. Especially if you are not offering a reduced rate for buying yearly. Costs have gone up so much on everything and having to pay exchange on top means that this would cost me close to $30 CDN. I don't begrudge the PAs their costs as I know everyone has bills but if I am paying that cost for a monthly subscription I have less money to spend on content. And this is just a hobby for me and one that I am currently not spending as much time on.
No matter how they calculate it, the offer in theory should be attractive in comparison to what we have, because no one in their right mind will go for an offer that is "lose that great deal you got and pay us more from now on", namely: why would I give up my 8 months of Daz+ perks left (so monthly coupons alone are worth $96 for me), to get one month of some extra perks (not even that many since it's still only 2 Daz coupons) that will save me $20, after which I either will have to pay $10/month to maintain my Daz+ level of perks for the remainder of my pre-existing membership period, so a total of $70, or keep paying $20/month?
I'm failing at math here to figure out how it's supposed to be attractive to me and rope me into paying two tenners a month even if I was remotely interested in doing so.
Is that on the checkout page?
Well .. i subbed. I Installed the beta. I installed the plugins from DIM. I see them inside the Plugin folder. But they dont show up in DAZ?!
Does anybody have an idea?
Agreed. I've got 18 months of DAZ+ left, and they offered me two months of premiere. That's not going to happen.
Did you use the Connect menu to log in? You can choose the option not to update metadata if you don't want it grabbing a list of your content (though the chnage log shows they have worked on better handling conflicts between user data - categories etc - and store data) but you won't see the subscriber content then (you will still be able to access your other content, including a free bundle if you have used that, through DIM).
FWIW, this all reminds me of when they attempted to make people pay for Daz STudio Pro. Everyone went ballistic and soon enough they revised their plan. I plan to wait a bit because the company has no way to know whether customers will jump all over this or say, meh, not for me. I personally want to see what exactly these new premier options in DS are before even thinking about this kind of increase. The bigger issue is whether I will keep daz+. 120 a year? doubt it.
I got my annual DAZ+ membership at a good rate and am set till mid-2027. I'm just going to stick with that till then. Premier doesn't make much sense for me (even before considering the offer of 3 months Premier for the 32 months or so of DAZ+ that I still have remaining...??) It's probably much more useful to those newer to DAZ without a sizable library of purchases.
I already have a lot of legacy stuff and an embarassing amount of the G3 to G9 pro bundles, so some of the Premier perks won't really make a difference for me. There's a whole universe of things I can do with what I've got, and I should really focus on doing those things. Love love love DAZ, but this may be a good time really for me to shop less and render more...
Has this been asked:
Apparently a lot of the "new" plugins in DAZ Studio Premier are from ManFriday and have been available earlier.
I do have (the old) MeshGrabber for Mac but I was never able to get RenderQueue or dForce Companion as those are Windows only.
Now: Is DAZ Studio Premier completely cross-platform with all the plugins or are Mac users missing out on something?
The first screenshot was from the Payment Methods page (which only shows setting up a CC).
The second screenshot was when I tried to set up Auto Renewal on my subscription, and then it shows PayPal as an option and promptly gives me an error.
Yeah, I think if there isn't a better offer in the next two days, my only reason to go Premier would be to run out the subscription faster so I can wash my hands of Daz, this Premier offer is just so insulting and such a poorly thought-out decision I'm questioning if there's any point in staying a customer here.
Is DAZ even aware, that there is absolutly no happy comment in here about Premier?
Doesn't it ring a bell?
I'm no marketing expert but at a time when the market is being flooded with AI and Game Engine alternatives for creatives, DAZ seems to be actually pushing us in those diirections. Blender is also getting more attractive with each new release. I've been playing with using characters from my DAZ Studio scenes as inputs for Flux AI and Stable Diffusion and I'm having fun doing so. All strictly personal use - nothing commercial - so mostly for free. And I'm a complete novice - I could spend the next six months learning more about these AI features and find a lot of creative directions that I presently have no clue about. I guess we shall see how much DAZ users are wedded to this software and content over the next few months.
Which is, frankly, an absolutely absurd position to take as those people bought those subscriptions based upon how many months that they would be getting, while the lowered prices that they paid were set by DAZ itself with the promise that a service would be provided. All this tactic is accomplishing is DAZ effectively shooting its own reputation in the foot by trying to claw back discounts that DAZ has already been paid for under terms that DAZ itself set.
I keep trying and failing to wrap my head around it.
At a time when current Daz+ members are logging in to this forum and saying "Daz, things in the store keep getting more expensive, why aren't the monthly coupons scaling to match?" and "I'm not sure I'm going to renew my Daz+ membership, it doesn't seem to be worth it," Daz's solution is to... raise the cost of Daz+.
And not a little raise, something palatable like an extra $10 a year, something to keep pace with inflation... no, it's a massive $50 price hike, nearly doubled in cost.
I honestly don't see any point or reason for it other than "because we can."
I thought Daz was better than that.
What I would really like to know is how many storeys a robust character bundle can be safely dropped.
Hahaha you know your right, after reading thru a couple of forums Ive seen 0 "happy" posts I know they want/need more $$ and honetly just rasing the price a reasonable amount would have sat well with me and others but this......just doesnt sit well.
OZ-84 In dim go to Ready to DL, check display hidden,then under filters make sure betas are checkboxed
Well i really have them installed. I can see them in the plugins folder of the Public Beta Build.
But in DAZ itself i just dont see them. Cant add them through the tabs. Nothing new there ...
Better export and sculpting plugins look tempting, but I don't need new characters, especially not G9 characters.
No, I don't want to pay more on subscription to unlock software features.
Indeed. It should be noted that when DAZ tried to add a paid-premium tier to DS4, it was less than half a year before they did a complete turnaround and went to making not just the top-line DS4, but all of their then current software, free of charge. Honestly, I don't mind paying for subscriptions when I think I'm getting real value for them, but what DAZ seems to be offering for the price increase is mostly product that I already have.