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  • Finally found him; someone else remarked that he would probably be in the Poser Content section.

    So I went through the other workspaces and found the Poser Format section in the SelfServe workspace.

     

  • Hi guys,

    My DazStudio4.9 keeps quitting unexpectedly on (spot)render, when I look in my log it says this:

    WARNING: /src/sdksource/cloud/dzcloudtasknotifier.cpp(178): peer performed orderly shutdown errno=0

    A lot of people are experencing a similar problem, but it seems they're all experiencing it on a Windows OS; and I did just buy a new computer and freshly transfered my library to the new device.

    Maybe I did something wrong myself?

    Should I post my log.txt on here? Cause I don't know what any of it means.

    Thanks so much for taking the time to read this and crossing my fingers anyone will be able to advise.

     

  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,947
    edited April 2016

    Post the past like 100 lines of the log here and I might figure something out. Is that Iray or 3Delight spot rendering?

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  • Hi Totte,

    Thanks for your fast answer! 

    I'm assuming it's iray spotrendering, i've never really used 3Delight (i'm quite the newb)

    Does this log help?

     

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,947

    Hello, I guess you have to look in console.app (in /Applications/Utilities) and look for DAZ Studio crash log.

    Click (Show list) in the leftmost icon. Under "user diagnistic reports" you will find it. Put the first 100 lines here (the crash log is reversed). The DAZ log didnt say anyting so I suspect an Iray crash.

     

     

  • Sorry I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed, so when you said "the crash log is reversed" I started doubting whether you'd need to see the top or bottom 100 or so lines.

    Please find both attached, thanks so much for looking in to this.

     

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,947

    OK, it crashed, in thread 22 (which I suspect is an Iray render worker)

    But to be sure I would like to see that thread ( you can see it in the log, just paste in that section it looks like this (but says thread 22)

    Thread 14:
    0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff905c2eb2 __psynch_cvwait + 10
    1   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fffa0cce150 _pthread_cond_wait + 767
    2   libneuray.so                  	0x000000012a18646b 0x1284a7000 + 30274667
    3   libneuray.so                  	0x000000012a1aa878 0x1284a7000 + 30423160
    4   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fffa0ccdc13 _pthread_body + 131
    5   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fffa0ccdb90 _pthread_start + 168
    6   libsystem_pthread.dylib       	0x00007fffa0ccb375 thread_start + 13
    

    / Totte

     

     

     

  • Oh yeah, it says crashed!! :) (I dont know why that makes me happy but it does)

     

    Thread 22 Crashed:
    0   liboptix_prime.1.dylib            0x000000013201b672 0x131ff7000 + 149106
    1   liboptix_prime.1.dylib            0x000000013201b4e2 0x131ff7000 + 148706
    2   liboptix_prime.1.dylib            0x0000000132020335 0x131ff7000 + 168757
    3   liboptix_prime.1.dylib            0x00000001320180e9 0x131ff7000 + 135401
    4   liboptix_prime.1.dylib            0x0000000131ffd1e0 0x131ff7000 + 25056
    5   liboptix_prime.1.dylib            0x0000000131ffd41d rtpModelUpdate + 77
    6   libiray.so                        0x000000012d1d2e6e 0x12d160000 + 470638
    7   libneuray.so                      0x0000000128df66b9 0x1284a7000 + 9762489
    8   libneuray.so                      0x0000000128df82af 0x1284a7000 + 9769647
    9   libneuray.so                      0x0000000128e33fd4 0x1284a7000 + 10014676
    10  libiray.so                        0x000000012d16b896 0x12d160000 + 47254
    11  libiray.so                        0x000000012d167a52 0x12d160000 + 31314
    12  libiray.so                        0x000000012d16fb97 0x12d160000 + 64407
    13  libiray.so                        0x000000012d1c38be 0x12d160000 + 407742
    14  libneuray.so                      0x0000000128e36ceb 0x1284a7000 + 10026219
    15  libneuray.so                      0x0000000129f80770 0x1284a7000 + 28153712
    16  libneuray.so                      0x000000012a185bd4 0x1284a7000 + 30272468
    17  libneuray.so                      0x000000012a1865b7 0x1284a7000 + 30274999
    18  libneuray.so                      0x000000012a186448 0x1284a7000 + 30274632
    19  libneuray.so                      0x000000012a1aa878 0x1284a7000 + 30423160
    20  libsystem_pthread.dylib           0x00007fffa0ccdc13 _pthread_body + 131
    21  libsystem_pthread.dylib           0x00007fffa0ccdb90 _pthread_start + 168
    22  libsystem_pthread.dylib           0x00007fffa0ccb375 thread_start + 13

     

  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,947

    liboptix_prime.1.dylib            0x000000013201b672 0x131ff7000 + 149106

    Try to disable Optix Prime Accelration in the Advanced renderr settings.

    It might help, but as it crashes inside Iray, latest drivers and Cuda is always a good start too.

     

  • Thank you, Totte.

    The CUDA update is indeed what was missing. Silly me.

    Thank you so much for helping a newb out, friend. :)

  • Hausfrau MafiaHausfrau Mafia Posts: 76
    edited April 2016

    Oh dear, I think I rejoiced too soon.

    I finally got it working yesterday updating all the drivers to their OSX 10.11.4 equivalent; then (foolishly, I guess) updated the OS to 10.11.4.

    Now when I use my "OSX Default Graphics Driver" (which is what I used yesterday when it finally worked) DazStudio can't seem to locate my GPU (pic1).

    All the drivers are up to date (pic2 & 3) and my GPU is definitely still there (pic4).

    The weird thing is when I switch to "NVIDIA Web Driver" it does recognize the GPU but the (spot)render crashes are back. With the exact same crash report as posted two comments above (but on a different thread).

    For the sake of giving a full step-by-step I have had to restart the computer with the OPT+CMD+R+P for three chimes thingy because of a grey screen of death issue, ever since the OS update.

    I'm at a loss now, I don't even know what to google for at this stage. Have you ever heard of the GPU disappearing from the Advanced Render Settings?

    Thanks so much for your input, Totte. It's immensely appreciated.

     

     

     

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,947

    The default driver usually is way to old for Cuda, and what you experience is probably a driver releated crash. 
    I always wait on OS X upgrades until I know nVidia has released a working driver. I had severe crashing some months back until they fixed it. Welcome to the world of Driver Hell.

    Is there a WebDriver for 11.4 out yet? I haven't dared to upgrade. The WebDriver is usually bound to a specific OS version (security updates usually change the OS version too)

    / Totte

     

     

  • Hausfrau MafiaHausfrau Mafia Posts: 76
    edited April 2016

    There are two Nvidia web drivers out for 10.11.4 but (obviously) I don't recommend them (EDIT: I mean I don't recommend the OS update). Ugh, why oh why did I update my OS...

    Well so I'm on the Nvidia Driver now, and I can manage to render only with Optix disabled, which just makes it painfully slow.

    So what can I do? Just wait? Until when? :((

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  • TotteTotte Posts: 13,947

    There are two Nvidia web drivers out for 10.11.4 but (obviously) I don't recommend them (EDIT: I mean I don't recommend the OS update). Ugh, why oh why did I update my OS...

    Well so I'm on the Nvidia Driver now, and I can manage to render only with Optix disabled, which just makes it painfully slow.

    So what can I do? Just wait? Until when? :((

    Wait for nVidia to fix it.... but don't hold your breath.

    You can try to find a bug report form on the nVidia website and report the crash with Optix on TitanX on Mac OS X.

  • Alright, I'll try those and keep you posted if I get a response.

    Thanks, Totte!

  • Hausfrau MafiaHausfrau Mafia Posts: 76
    edited April 2016

    Okay, so I've talked to Apple. They were super friendly, as always, but couldn't really help.

    I'm still talking to DAZ, they're suggesting workarounds that don't seem to work.

    And I've just talked to NVIDIA as well, who simply blew me off saying the Titan X is not supported on Mac. So how come so many people buy them together? And why was it working "fine" in 10.11.3; and no longer on 10.11.4? I call BS.

    EDIT: Oh this has to do with that EFI thing the seller was babbling about, doesn't it?

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  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    I decided I wanted an easy way to have all the shoes in my G2F -> Clothing section findable, so I made a subfolder called Shoes in the G2F area of the content library and started copying the duf and png's into it.  Then it occured to me, there might be a better way of doing this, rather than having mutliple copies of the files on the hardrive (though they're small). Would aliases work in this? Is this just a dumb way to do it and I should seek some nartive to Daz solution?

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,604

    Aliases would work, as would installing with Connect and using mutliple .djl links, as would doing the whole thing in categories.

  • 3DNewbie3DNewbie Posts: 40
    3DNewbie said:
    Totte said:
    CZ said:

    Hi,  I'm wondering whether anyone can help me figure out how to install web-based content into Daz 3D on a Mac.  I've been following a tutorial called "Water Shader Tutorial for Daz Studio Iray" by Shibashake, and she explains how to create the look of water by starting out with a plane primitive.  (That part I can handle :-) Once she loads a plane, she adds waves by adding in a "water normal map".  I searched online and found dozens of normal water map images, but I haven't a clue how to go about loading them into the surfaces tab of my Daz program.  Many thanks in advance if anyone has a moment & wouldn't mind helping me out!   

  • 3DNewbie3DNewbie Posts: 40
    edited May 2016
    Totte said:
    3DNewbie said:
    Hello Paul, 

    it should work. Jaderail is sadly no longer among us, he passed about a year and a half and he is surely missed, but his ghost still watches the forums, I am sure.

    To install things from a zip, I might suggest the little RendoIstall program I wrote for that. You finsd it here: http://4eyes.code66.se/?p=7775

    Cheers!

    / Totte

    Hi Totte,

    I hadn't seen this post before - it's been awhile since I checked the forums - thank you so much for reccomending the program you wrote!  Can''t wait to try it out.  

    I'm very sorry to hear about Jaderail - from what I saw  of the PDF document he wrote, his program is brilliant.

    All the best

    Paul

    PS - Having great fun exploring Daz . . . I really appreciate all your help!

     

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  • 3DNewbie3DNewbie Posts: 40

    Hi,

    I'm wondering if anyone can help me with the procedure for installing web-based content into Daz 3D.  I've been trying to create the look of water by following the "Water Shader Tutorial for Daz Studio Iray" by Shibashake.  She begins by creating a plane primitive and adding a water shader to it (that part I can manage :-).  To add waves on the surface, she loads a "water normal map" into the "normal map" parameter of the plane.  I searched online for "water normal maps" as she suggests, and found dozens of them.  The challenge is that I haven't a clue how to load one into the surfaces tab of Daz 3D Studio.  I tried dragging one from my desktop into Daz, but that didn't work; I'm sure there's a method I haven't found yet in my readings.  Thanks in advance if anyone knows and wouldn't mind explaining what the procedure is!

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    I had something gobbling up hard drive space earlier today--  60gigs in minutes ...run away temp file or log or something...I quickly killed every program I had running..Daz was one of them.

    As soon as I kileed lots of stuff, the available space shot back up...

    Anyone seen Daz doing this before?

  • Totte said:

    DAZ Studio on Mac OS X FAQ

    I will try to keep the FAQs short but descriptive, and in a Q/A format. The list will grow over time.

    Installers wont run
    Q: I download installers with content from the DAZ store, but when I have unzipped them they will not run, why?
    A: Most likely you are using a not so intelligent third party unzipper and not the built in unarchiver. Many third party unzippers do not only unzip the zip-file containing the installer, but also unzips the installers payload which ruins the installer.

    DAZ Studio just keeps crashing
    Q: DAZ Studio 4 or 4.5 constantly crashes on Mac OS X, specially when I click in smart content or in the content browser. How can I make it stop doing that?
    A: Those crashes are caused by a bug in the CMS connection API. You ca see of you have those crashes if you see the word Valentina or fbl:: in the crashreport/crashdump. The best solution to keep those crashes at bay is to use the Content DB Maintenance panel (found in the menu for the content tab. Check the Mark all content as seen, Condense Database and Process Metadata queue. Do this when you have added more content. If you make this a habit until the problem is solved, you will see much less crashes.
    Update: This was fixed in DAZ Studio 4.5.2.40, no need for this any more if you run that version or newer.

    Starting / Stopping the DAZ Content Manager Service
    In Programs/DAZ 3D/DAZ Studio (32 or 64)bit is a folder named service.
    It holds two Applescripts:
    Start DAZ Content Management Service
    Stop DAZ Content Management Service

    Use them to Start/Stop the content manager, do not use the terminal or the Activity Monitor or Force Quit dialog.

    I cannot find my Library folder under Mac OS X 10.7 or 10.8
    Apple decided to hide some folders for the common users are they contain things the normal user very seldom needs to peek in, among those are ~/Library, the Library in your home catalogue. If you need to peek there, in Finder use Command+Shift+G (go to folder), and enter ~/Library and you will see it.
    If you don't want it to be hidden, you can start the terminal and type:

    chflags nohidden ~/Library 


    which will make ~/Library visible in the Finder again.

     

    Added: DIM + DS content setup help.

    Hello to everybody here i dont know if is the right place to share that but if i doing it wrong i'm sorry.I want to share a little from my knowledge about macs.

    Since El Capitan Apple desided to hide the user library.So if anyone have problem to find it there are 2 nice utilities.

    The first one is "find any file"  (http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ ) I using it for a long time and can find so easily any folder you want

    and the second is the " tinker tool" which have an option among others to unhide hidden folders.(http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html )

    It's also the "Onyx" but it have so many options and is very powerful for advanced users.

    Thank you and sorry...

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    I just use onyx's ability to make the library visable.

  • ThorThor Posts: 43

    You can also just hold the option key and click on the "Go" menu. The Library folder shows up in the menu with option pressed.

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664
    edited May 2016

    Does anyone else find drag and drop just stops working?

    I was trying dragging items into the genx window, and it worked the first time...then when I try it, the green + vanishes and instead I'm just drawing a selection box around the items in the content library.

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  • Totte said:

    DAZ Studio on Mac OS X FAQ

    I will try to keep the FAQs short but descriptive, and in a Q/A format. The list will grow over time.

    Installers wont run
    Q: I download installers with content from the DAZ store, but when I have unzipped them they will not run, why?
    A: Most likely you are using a not so intelligent third party unzipper and not the built in unarchiver. Many third party unzippers do not only unzip the zip-file containing the installer, but also unzips the installers payload which ruins the installer.

    DAZ Studio just keeps crashing
    Q: DAZ Studio 4 or 4.5 constantly crashes on Mac OS X, specially when I click in smart content or in the content browser. How can I make it stop doing that?
    A: Those crashes are caused by a bug in the CMS connection API. You ca see of you have those crashes if you see the word Valentina or fbl:: in the crashreport/crashdump. The best solution to keep those crashes at bay is to use the Content DB Maintenance panel (found in the menu for the content tab. Check the Mark all content as seen, Condense Database and Process Metadata queue. Do this when you have added more content. If you make this a habit until the problem is solved, you will see much less crashes.
    Update: This was fixed in DAZ Studio 4.5.2.40, no need for this any more if you run that version or newer.

    Starting / Stopping the DAZ Content Manager Service
    In Programs/DAZ 3D/DAZ Studio (32 or 64)bit is a folder named service.
    It holds two Applescripts:
    Start DAZ Content Management Service
    Stop DAZ Content Management Service

    Use them to Start/Stop the content manager, do not use the terminal or the Activity Monitor or Force Quit dialog.

    I cannot find my Library folder under Mac OS X 10.7 or 10.8
    Apple decided to hide some folders for the common users are they contain things the normal user very seldom needs to peek in, among those are ~/Library, the Library in your home catalogue. If you need to peek there, in Finder use Command+Shift+G (go to folder), and enter ~/Library and you will see it.
    If you don't want it to be hidden, you can start the terminal and type:

    chflags nohidden ~/Library 


    which will make ~/Library visible in the Finder again.

     

    Added: DIM + DS content setup help.

    Hello to everybody here i dont know if is the right place to share that but if i doing it wrong i'm sorry.I want to share a little from my knowledge about macs.

    Since El Capitan Apple desided to hide the user library.So if anyone have problem to find it there are 2 nice utilities.

    The first one is "find any file"  (http://apps.tempel.org/FindAnyFile/ ) I using it for a long time and can find so easily any folder you want

    and the second is the " tinker tool" which have an option among others to unhide hidden folders.(http://www.bresink.com/osx/TinkerTool.html )

    It's also the "Onyx" but it have so many options and is very powerful for advanced users.

    Thank you and sorry...

    Don't install any third party apps for something as mundane as that. Thor gave the right answer here.

     

    Thor said:

    You can also just hold the option key and click on the "Go" menu. The Library folder shows up in the menu with option pressed.

     

  • Hello.Reply to Thor.

    I dont like this way for me. i prefer lot more these applications i have and most the find any file. Much better.

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    Aliases would work, as would installing with Connect and using mutliple .djl links, as would doing the whole thing in categories.

    Daz I found does not recognize aliases, at least not folder aliases.

    I don't use Connect.

  • ScavengerScavenger Posts: 2,664

    Anyone familiar with Owlet? It's a renderer or someting?

    http://boxshot.com/owlet/

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