Novica & Forum Members Tips & Product Reviews Pt 11

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  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,890
    L'Adair said:
    Novica said:

    So going to share what I'm experiencing when I pick poses to help showcase the products. I put the clothes on the figure, did the pose, then used the clothing vendor's corrected foot pose. Want to show what you have to watch out for.

    That plane is World Center, 0/0/0 

    First, here's the pose without the shoe pose preset. When the ball of the foot on the left leg is where it should be, the entire right leg doesn't contact the ground, nor does the top of the foot. The knee does touch the ground (that's blocked by the foot closest to us.)  First, the pose that doesn't lay the leg properly, but that's tweakable. A character's build can affect the surface contact.  Side and front views.

    Next the shoe pose and it's impact. So.... my question is, do you pick the pose, then the clothes, or pick the clothes, then the pose? Do you encounter this problem when you apply the foot poses from shoes very often?

    More often than not, I pick the clothes first, then I look for a pose that I think will show off both the figure and the wardrobe. And if I've chosen the set, that enters into what pose I choose as well. (And sometimes it's a combination of poses.)

    It is a rare pose that I don't have to tweak at least a little bit. Most poses get more than a little tweak, especially when the shoes and shoe pose make as big a difference as those in your example.

    Me too. I create the character, add clothes, shaders, hair, everything first, figuring out who she is and how she should be posed. Then I try to find a decent pose close to what I was thinking as a starting point, then change most of it. I don't think I've ever used a pose out of the box.

  • MollytabbyMollytabby Posts: 1,163

    It’s in my basket ... smiley

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651
    edited July 2018

    I'm at the phase where I am increasingly dissatisfied with storebought poses. It is not that they aren't well-done, its just that there is very rarely anything that is more utiliatrian in the sets or that they very rarely look good when I apply them. Being designed for a specific height character, couples poses need major adjustment to fit a character of a different height, combat poses have characters far apart, posturing, etc.

     I have so many muscle flexing and character standing there poses. It seems easier at this phase to make my own.

    Also I find it takes more time to fix and correct others poses than to design my own.

    I  own about 500 pose sets. Many of which I've converted to genesis 8. But even the converted poses tend to have issues with feet or limbs, due to the way they were designed initially.

    I am not knocking pose creators. I am one too, but if you want to move beyond pinup and do scenes its fairly difficult with the current selection unless you like to alter them to suit your needs. Which in the end defeats the purpose-to me-of a premade pose. If I have to rebuild it too much might as well do the whole enchilada.

     

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  • SimonJMSimonJM Posts: 5,982
    Taoz said:
    SimonJM said:
    Taoz said:

    Thanks! Here's a close-up of the mouse, though it's old it's pretty nice actually.


     

    Where are the other 2 or 3 mousekateers?;0 

    Unfortunately this is The Last Mousekateer...

    Surely some mousetake?

  • genarisgenaris Posts: 324
    edited July 2018

    HelloO, fellow shoppers and comrades! Can someone help me identify this LONG HAIR product?  I have scaled up, screengrabbed&cropped the attached image here from a gallery post. (EDITED to add: it was posted by someone else, not me)   I'd posted a comment & asked the poster about the hair (in November) but didn't get a reply nor have i been able to ID the hair yet. (frustrated grunt!!)  The url to the original poster's gallery image is https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/images/400916 in case anyone wants to see it.

    I naturally thought straight off: Julius hair, then Leyton hair, but they really do not have the features and characteristics of this hair in pic. Follow the RED arrows to notice that this LONG HAIR has SHORTER CUTS that are nicely wavy around the cheek to mouth height, unlike Julius hair which is ALL UNIFORMLY LONG and spiral wavy all the way down.  Look at BLUE arrows: the TOP of this hair is pretty full, and smoothly, loosely swept UP and BACK on the top of head.  I've looked at long hair store products on different occasions and for waaay too long at a time and have still been unable to find this particular hair, so if anyone can shine some light, I'd be very grateful.

    PS: am i the only person who bitterly curses people who post images at the daz galleries and don't list the items used?!!   People should know better...I mean, as Hannibal Lecter taught us all: "What do we covet? We covet what we see."  So, naturally we all want to know: who did your hair, your clothes, your makeup, your furniture, your gall bladder. ;)
        ~Gen

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651
    edited July 2018

    If it sn't Ajax hair its pretty close. Given the degree of shine its likely not a gen 8 hair and is something for gen 2 or 3. It looks almost like 3DL.  I'd look at the genesis 2-3 female hair too.

    But Ajax looks very much like that style

    https://www.daz3d.com/ajax-hair-for-genesis-3-male-s

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,941
    SimonJM said:
    Taoz said:
    SimonJM said:
    Taoz said:

    Thanks! Here's a close-up of the mouse, though it's old it's pretty nice actually.


     

    Where are the other 2 or 3 mousekateers?;0 

    Unfortunately this is The Last Mousekateer...

    Surely some mousetake?

    No, the others suffered a catastrophic death. The remainders of them were buried in a mousoleum.

  • isidornisidorn Posts: 1,601

    @genaris One trick is to mix two hairs together to get a specific look. Could be the case here if parts of it really looks like one hair, but other parts do not.

    And yes, it would be nice if more people listed the products used. But there aren't all that many gall bladders in the store, so if you see one of those it should be pretty easy to find. wink I'll admit though, I frequently forget what shaders and poses I've used, so I rarely have those listed, and when kitbashing it can be hard to remember where every little bit is from. But in general I agree. More product listings in the gallery!

  • IceDragonArtIceDragonArt Posts: 12,548
    isidorn said:

    @genaris One trick is to mix two hairs together to get a specific look. Could be the case here if parts of it really looks like one hair, but other parts do not.

    And yes, it would be nice if more people listed the products used. But there aren't all that many gall bladders in the store, so if you see one of those it should be pretty easy to find. wink I'll admit though, I frequently forget what shaders and poses I've used, so I rarely have those listed, and when kitbashing it can be hard to remember where every little bit is from. But in general I agree. More product listings in the gallery!

    I'm admittedly terrible about this but sometimes (okay, almost always) will try three, four, five or more hair, outfits, props or whatever amd half the time can't remember what I used two outfits ago, if I decide I want to use something I already tried I have to go hunt for it again lol.  If I can remember, I will add it but mostly, I have no clue by the time I'm ready to post it in the gallery.   Its the reason I won't use any textures or brushes or whatever in post work if they require being listed.  I can use twnty or more different things and there is no way I can remember who they belong to.  Especially when the texture is name 01.

  • genarisgenaris Posts: 324
    edited July 2018

    If it sn't Ajax hair its pretty close. Given the degree of shine its likely not a gen 8 hair and is something for gen 2 or 3. It looks almost like 3DL.  I'd look at the genesis 2-3 female hair too.

    But Ajax looks very much like that style

    https://www.daz3d.com/ajax-hair-for-genesis-3-male-s

    @Serene Night ... yeah, I'd looked at that product but somehow it just looked very flat or shallow at top as opposed to how "mall hair" high and loosely swept the pic's hair appears and in other ways just somehow didn't seem quite right.  But nothing else I've been able to dredge up yet, male or female hair product-wise, looks any closer,  so unless someone knows otherwise, I'm thinking you may be right.  I know we all do experiment with frankenstein-ing hair-pieces together, or making/transferring morphs and things like over-driving morphs to get a result that goes beyond what the product alone did, plus so many morphs & styles are not shown off in the promos....  so that could account for the differences that I see.  Thanks for the info!    
    --PS: speaking of images and hair :) - I was skimming a Micheal&friends daz thread and saw a work of yours from a couple of months ago with your 2 chars --being followed while vacationing--  wow, I loved the sunlighting suffusing the scene and the nice bloom/glow, and OMG the longer blond hair looked incredible!
        ~Gen

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  • genarisgenaris Posts: 324

    @isidorn ... yeah, I'm thinking Serene Night is probably right that it's Ajax hair but like I said, between styles & morphs not shown in promos, and things we all do with hair products, like you say, splicing them together to get different looks, or turning off limits etc, you can go well off the map from how the base product looks.  And I'm with you and @IceDragonArt about how hard it can be to remember exactly what ingredients you've actually used in your soup by the time you get done trying 50 different outfits, poses, material presets, lights, outfits, secret decoder rings.  One thing I often wish is that Daz Studio would do like Photoshop and have an adjustable HISTORY LOG which depending on your preference and available memory to support it, could remember/undo/redo from 10 to ### many things you do in DS, and have a little panel where you could SEE the LIST of actions you've done, including what resources you clicked into the scene (and kept :) as well as the ones you swapped out. Even more glorious if you could just scroll through that list and click something you'd tried out but replaced much earlier and get that action/preset/etc back again instead of having to trawl back through the content system to find something over again, the same way pshop lets you instantly return to those prior states. Aside from the convenience while making try-out decisions for a scene, it'd be super to be able to see exactly what is present in the final scene in one central listing. ah... sweet dreams are made of this... :)
       ~Gen

  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    I actually go in Scene pane and make my notes on the name of the items. I'll put the shader of the hair on the hair name, like,(Hair Name, then) "Slosh"  or "Phil"   LOL. I do the same with the clothes. If I use a lot of shaders, I just spread them out throughout the clothes' names. Funky but it works, I have my notes there at the end of the process.

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  • ChangelingChickChangelingChick Posts: 3,214
    edited July 2018
    genaris said:

    If it sn't Ajax hair its pretty close. Given the degree of shine its likely not a gen 8 hair and is something for gen 2 or 3. It looks almost like 3DL.  I'd look at the genesis 2-3 female hair too.

    But Ajax looks very much like that style

    https://www.daz3d.com/ajax-hair-for-genesis-3-male-s

    @Serene Night ... yeah, I'd looked at that product but somehow it just looked very flat or shallow at top as opposed to how "mall hair" high and loosely swept the pic's hair appears and in other ways just somehow didn't seem quite right.  But nothing else I've been able to dredge up yet, male or female hair product-wise, looks any closer,  so unless someone knows otherwise, I'm thinking you may be right.  I know we all do experiment with frankenstein-ing hair-pieces together, or making/transferring morphs and things like over-driving morphs to get a result that goes beyond what the product alone did, plus so many morphs & styles are not shown off in the promos....  so that could account for the differences that I see.  Thanks for the info!    
    --PS: speaking of images and hair :) - I was skimming a Micheal&friends daz thread and saw a work of yours from a couple of months ago with your 2 chars --being followed while vacationing--  wow, I loved the sunlighting suffusing the scene and the nice bloom/glow, and OMG the longer blond hair looked incredible!
        ~Gen

    It's not Ajax. This is a G3F hair (I think from another site). I can't remember the name, but I'm looking. Driving me nuts, because I know I have it.

    Edit: Not just g3f. I'm pretty sure this is SAV Ades with some of the longer morphs dialed in. G3M refit works for G8M.

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    If you haven't seen this gallery image, consider giving it a Like. Really deserves it. 

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  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651
    genaris said:


    --PS: speaking of images and hair :) - I was skimming a Micheal&friends daz thread and saw a work of yours from a couple of months ago with your 2 chars --being followed while vacationing--  wow, I loved the sunlighting suffusing the scene and the nice bloom/glow, and OMG the longer blond hair looked incredible!
        ~

    thanksheart. That’s one of my favorite pictures of Boyd. I like that other hair a lot.

     

  • zombietaggerungzombietaggerung Posts: 3,726
    genaris said:

    HelloO, fellow shoppers and comrades! Can someone help me identify this LONG HAIR product?  I have scaled up, screengrabbed&cropped the attached image here from a gallery post. (EDITED to add: it was posted by someone else, not me)   I'd posted a comment & asked the poster about the hair (in November) but didn't get a reply nor have i been able to ID the hair yet. (frustrated grunt!!)  The url to the original poster's gallery image is https://www.daz3d.com/gallery/images/400916 in case anyone wants to see it.

    I naturally thought straight off: Julius hair, then Leyton hair, but they really do not have the features and characteristics of this hair in pic. Follow the RED arrows to notice that this LONG HAIR has SHORTER CUTS that are nicely wavy around the cheek to mouth height, unlike Julius hair which is ALL UNIFORMLY LONG and spiral wavy all the way down.  Look at BLUE arrows: the TOP of this hair is pretty full, and smoothly, loosely swept UP and BACK on the top of head.  I've looked at long hair store products on different occasions and for waaay too long at a time and have still been unable to find this particular hair, so if anyone can shine some light, I'd be very grateful.

    PS: am i the only person who bitterly curses people who post images at the daz galleries and don't list the items used?!!   People should know better...I mean, as Hannibal Lecter taught us all: "What do we covet? We covet what we see."  So, naturally we all want to know: who did your hair, your clothes, your makeup, your furniture, your gall bladder. ;)
        ~Gen

    That looks to me like https://www.renderosity.com/mod/bcs/sav-ades-hair-/112897/ with the lengthen morph.

  • firewardenfirewarden Posts: 1,482
    Novica said:

    If you haven't seen this gallery image, consider giving it a Like. Really deserves it. 

    That is an AMAZING image in so many ways. Thank you for highlighting it!

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,447
    Novica said:

    If you haven't seen this gallery image, consider giving it a Like. Really deserves it. 

    That is an AMAZING image in so many ways. Thank you for highlighting it!

    Dittoyes

  • genarisgenaris Posts: 324
    Novica said:

    If you haven't seen this gallery image, consider giving it a Like. Really deserves it. 

    Thanks, @Novica for pointing this one out to us!  Definitely worth viewing and LIKING. 
        ~Gen

  • genarisgenaris Posts: 324

    @ChangelingChick and @zombietaggerung . . . THANKS, you two, for ID-ing the hair for me!! I'm so happy now to be able to know which to buy to get the look I wanted!  smiley    
                ~Gen

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,941
    edited July 2018

     

    Novica said:

    If you haven't seen this gallery image, consider giving it a Like. Really deserves it. 

    Great render. Yes, this is a big problem, and the sources of the plastic can be things like toothpaste and cosmetics which I don't think many people know. There's a lot of natural cosmetic products out there without harmful ingredients btw..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3759269/Plastic-fish-caught-Britain-toxic-microbeads-used-shower-gels-toothpastes-beauty-products.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3757440/Ban-toxic-beads-Tiny-plastic-beads-shower-gel-toothpaste-poisoning-oceans-threatening-health-s-time-outlawed.html

     

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887
    edited July 2018

    The ocean litter render is on the opening page of Daz  :)  Not sure how long it's been there. 

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  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,131

    It's been there a week at least.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,651

    It’s been up a while. It’s well done, hivewire 3d just posted about it on Facebook.

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,890
    Taoz said:

     

    Novica said:

    If you haven't seen this gallery image, consider giving it a Like. Really deserves it. 

    Great render. Yes, this is a big problem, and the sources of the plastic can be things like toothpaste and cosmetics which I don't think many people know. There's a lot of natural cosmetic products out there without harmful ingredients btw..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3759269/Plastic-fish-caught-Britain-toxic-microbeads-used-shower-gels-toothpastes-beauty-products.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3757440/Ban-toxic-beads-Tiny-plastic-beads-shower-gel-toothpaste-poisoning-oceans-threatening-health-s-time-outlawed.html

     

    I recycle EVERYTHING that possibly can be! My building had to get 3 extra blue bins because of me! And in California we get 5 cents back for bottles and cans and even cash for glass, so when I bring stuff in, I look at the cash in terms of how many new “free” products I can get LOL. Best way to get “freebies” and save the planet!

  • nonesuch00nonesuch00 Posts: 18,131
    Taoz said:

     

    Novica said:

    If you haven't seen this gallery image, consider giving it a Like. Really deserves it. 

    Great render. Yes, this is a big problem, and the sources of the plastic can be things like toothpaste and cosmetics which I don't think many people know. There's a lot of natural cosmetic products out there without harmful ingredients btw..

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3759269/Plastic-fish-caught-Britain-toxic-microbeads-used-shower-gels-toothpastes-beauty-products.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3757440/Ban-toxic-beads-Tiny-plastic-beads-shower-gel-toothpaste-poisoning-oceans-threatening-health-s-time-outlawed.html

     

    I recycle EVERYTHING that possibly can be! My building had to get 3 extra blue bins because of me! And in California we get 5 cents back for bottles and cans and even cash for glass, so when I bring stuff in, I look at the cash in terms of how many new “free” products I can get LOL. Best way to get “freebies” and save the planet!

    It takes me 3 to 4 weeks to have enough for the trash men to pick up & where it not two two litre soda bottles I buy it'd be a year before I had enough trash to make it work their while to collect. The plastic from the bottles though is quite strong & valuable for re-cycling.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,941
    edited July 2018

    We have a very effective recycling system here.  We pay a deposit in the supermarkets for all soda and beer plastic bottles and cans, they have machines where you can return the empty bottles and cans and get the deposit back. Also containers everywhere where you can return glass bottles and jars, paper (newspapers, ads), and batteries, for recycling, and local recycle stations where you can get rid of all kinds of other stuff like furniture, electronics, bikes etc.. which is also recycled in different ways.

    Two household garbage cans, one for inorganic garbage and one for organic which gets composted, people can then collect the compost for free to use in their gardens. The inorganic garbage is burned in huge incineration plants, the heat is used for district heating and producting electricity. Only garbage which cannot be recycled or incinerated is deposited.

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  • NovicaNovica Posts: 23,887

    Well, Pensacola is a disappointment. They got CAUGHT dumping all the recycle items in the regular landfill. The local newspaper got wind of it and got them on camera doing it- good for them! So now the watchdogs are on top of it, and the county government was really embarrassed. Many people got fired, as it wasn't just ONE truck doing it. All drivers were. We have separate recycle cans, same size as the huge garbage ones, but with white lids- can't mistake them, and it's a separate run/driver doing the pickup.

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,447

    Don't have recycling pickup here yet but nephew does where he lives has two seperate cans a green one for regular garbage and a blue one for recyclables

  • Robert FreiseRobert Freise Posts: 4,447

    Back when I was a kid we had to pay a deposit on soda pop, beer, and milk if it was in a glass jug unless you had one to return

    Regular soda pop bottles were 3 cents pints were a nickle and quarts were a quarter

    Beer was a nickel and the milk jugs were 80 cents for 1/2gal $1.00 for a gal

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