Carrara Challenge # 51 - Here There Be Dragons! Folk/Fairy Tales WIP thread - Brilliant Images

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,983
    Diomede said:

    That is a beautiful texture set, Varsel.  I have plenty of the G2F support clothing, but not the Arthurian figure.  May look for it during March Madness.

     

    My second project will be a folktale that may be based on a real person, John Henry.  In the folk tale, John Henry is a railroad worker.  The railroad decides to try using steam powered spike drivers.  John Henry says men can do it faster and better.  He has a race against the steam drill.  He wins but he exhausts himself and dies shortly afterwards. There are old folk songs and recordings.  There is a historical marker claiming to be the place of the race.  Disney made a film.  https://youtu.be/MuNckYmnkC0

     

    In contemplating my approach, I think I will

    - use TangoAlpha's end of the tracks set

    - model my own railroad worker clothes for genesis (meshes below)

    - model a steam drill, although I'm not sure it will make it in the image

     

     

     

     

    wow another great concept - blink and you'll miss it as the saying goes - terrific to see Tango Alpha's set in action

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,983

    I think Yogi & Boo Boo got their stories mixed up!

    The Picnic Basket

    ha ha, I've been looking for matt and maddie all after noon - wonder if the wolf ate them!

     

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    edited February 2020

    Test of the character and clothing figures for John Henry.  I used Genesis 1.  The body is a mixture of Michael 5 and bodybuilder morphs.  The head and texture maps are from a character called Benjamin for M5  https://www.daz3d.com/benjamin-for-m5.  The Benjamin character comes bundled with Carrara 8.5 Pro.  https://www.daz3d.com/carrara-8-5-pro

    Clothing items modeled in Carrara and used the transfer utility in the Daz Studio plugin to make conforming.

     

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    edited February 2020

    Free Overalls for Genesis

    See attached zip.

    - I've attempted to gather the files to share the John Henry Overalls Outfit for genesis 1.  Free for renders, but please don't share the mesh.  Let me know if you get any errors.

    - No textures.

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    edited February 2020

    John Henry update.

    Here is a render from camera 7 of TangoAlpha's End of the Tracks product.  I moved the camera aroun d and changed the zoom to get the shot along the tracks that I wanted.

    I placed that in the backdrop of a new scene.  I loaded Genesis and applied my John Henry character, conformed my overalls outfit, and modeled a hammer.  I placed some cubes as shadow catchers and ried to match up with the railway.

    And a little postwork.

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    edited February 2020

    Carrara Scene Setup for John  Henry Project

     

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  • de3ande3an Posts: 915
    edited February 2020
    Diomede said:

    Carrara Scene Setup for John  Henry Project

     

    Looking good!

    One suggestion...  Give John Henry an authentic railroad "spike maul" rather than the sledge.

     

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    de3an said:
    Diomede said:

    Carrara Scene Setup for John  Henry Project

     

    Looking good!

    One suggestion...  Give John Henry an authentic railroad "spike maul" rather than the sledge.

     

    Thank you, de3an.  I will create a substitute tool.  yesyes

    I'm actually not happy with the pose and scene setup.  I really have to decide if I want the image to be about John Henry"s heroic performance against technology, in which case I need to give it more of a feeling of a race with onlookers.  Or, I need to embrace Headwax's dark side and show John Henry's exhaustion or post-race death.

    But whichever way I take it, I need to give him a more appropriate spike.

  • Bunyip02Bunyip02 Posts: 8,558

    Headwax - hoping Pinocchio is making progress

    Diomede - love the contemporary take on mirror on the wall. Trust you find a good scene for John Henry.

    Stezza - thanks for the workflow on Greta. I think the pig in the house needs to light a fire fast....

    Wendy - thats a lot of hair, hate to think what her hair-dresser would charge

    Vyusur - looking forward to your work

    DesertDude - hope you find inspiration for a render or three

    UB - get those creative juices flowing !

    Varsel - Queen looks great !!!

     

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158

    Thanks, Bunyip, for the nice comments.

     

    Pecos Bill and Slue-Footed Sue

    While I reconsider my approach to John Henry, I'm thinking about a third project.  There are some folktales from the American West that might be fun.  

    https://americanfolklore.net/folklore/2010/08/pecos_bill_and_sluefoot_sue.html

    retold by

    S. E. Schlosser

    Now, Pecos Bill had a way with wimmen. No doubt. He had dozens of wives during his time. But his one true love was Slue-foot Sue. She was his first wife - and she could ride almost as good as Bill himself.

    Bill first saw Slue-foot Sue ridin' a catfish down the Rio Grande. She was riding standing up and holdin' on with only one hand sose she could take pot-shots at the clouds with her six-shooter. Was making a right pretty pattern too. Bill jest went head over heels for her. Proposed on the spot. They was married the next day too.

    Sue was dressed in one of them white jobs with the large hoops. Looked plumb beautiful. Right after they was married, Sue insisted Bill prove how much he loved her by letting her ride his horse, Widow-maker. Bill couldn't talk her out of it, so Sue climbed on that great devil of a horse.

    Well, Widow-Maker bucked like a maniac, jest as you'd expect. Sue was thrown off - clear up to the clouds. Luckily, Sue was still wearing her springy hoop. When she hit the ground, she bounced up again. But we all soon realized Sue couldn't stop bouncing. She bounced so high she kept hitting her head on the moon. She was crying and crying buckets of tears, and throwin' kisses to her new husband. But even he couldn't stop her bouncing.

    We waited three days and four nights. Finally, even Bill realized that she was gonna starve to death before she stopped bouncing, so he had to shoot her. It was a cryin' shame. Well, time heals wounds, and Bill finally got married again. And again. And again. But I'm tellin' you, he never felt the same about another woman as he felt for his first wife, Slue-foot Sue.

  • UnifiedBrainUnifiedBrain Posts: 3,588
    edited February 2020

    Not By The Hair Of My Chinny Chin-Chin!

     

    I've long admired Headwax's fairy tale book illustrations.  This Challenge theme can be interpreted in many ways, but I've decided to stick with more traditional characters and stories, as I have never attempted to illustrate a popular fairy tale.  Not saying that the scenes will be traditional, but the characters should hopefully be recognizable.  Maybe a kind of fractured fairy tale. smiley

    The pig is the Frankie character from Rendo.  Big Bad Wolf and the Muelsfell cannon (modified) are in the Daz library of products.

    In Carrara, I visited the hair room, plant room, modeling room, text room, shader/displacement room, and the particle room (new for me).  GMIC Lylejk filter.

    No postwork.

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  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158

    Excellent perspective, UB.  The pig's pose and expression are priceless.  Did you use the particles for the sparks?

  • Thanks, Diomede.  Yup, the fuse is burning particles.  Finally had a reason to play in the particle room.  Carrara never ceases to amaze. 

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    Frankieheart

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    the old shoe house

    was trying to get the shoe house balcony in the shot angel

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  • StezzaStezza Posts: 8,046
    edited February 2020

    that cannon gonna blow away his straw hut away anyways .... the wolf is in for a surprise.. great render UB yes

    this one is titled

    Loki

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,983

    sorry have been away up coast to celebrate my 103rd birthday with several bottles of cheap champagne :)

    Diomede - perfect job on the overalls, the wrinkles add a bit of veracity - thanks for the kindness donating the overalls! hop i get a chance to use them :)

    Bunyip02 - thanks - I need to make his nose shorter as I keep tripping over it!!

     

    Diomede said:

    Excellent perspective, UB.  The pig's pose and expression are priceless.  

    Yes UB great idea, a novel take on an old subject - love how the wolf is going to get it! GMIC Lylejk filter. looks very effective thanks for the heads up on that!

     

    Mystarra said:

    the old shoe house

    was trying to get the shoe house balcony in the shot angel

    Nice work Mysty - maybe dropping the camera from 50 degrees to 45 would do it?

     

     

    that cannon gonna blow away his straw hut away anyways .... the wolf is in for a surprise.. great render UB yes

    this one is titled

    Loki

     

    cl;assical Stezza in more ways than one - imagine a world without Loki - too much peace and quite :) Quizzical dog is a nice touch!

     

  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,983
    edited February 2020

    I wanted to go a little retro with this so I used Mat and Maddie - I can tell you the k4 figures were a great improvment!

    Hansel and Gretel - post wotk in affinity photo, fotosketcher, filter forge and photodonut - spoilt for choice!

    postworked image first

     

     

     

    unpostworked image

     

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,983
    edited February 2020

    With Photodonut filter Departing Trains

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  • WendyLuvsCatzWendyLuvsCatz Posts: 38,179
    edited February 2020

    your Hansel and Gretel render with them eating the squirrels on sticks comes up on my desktop wallpaper cycle now and again cheeky

    oh think those were rats

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  • HeadwaxHeadwax Posts: 9,983

    ha ha I am honoured to be part of your desktop Wendy - rats and squirrels apparently all taste as good as each other :)

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

  • MistaraMistara Posts: 38,675

    the shoe house has a P4 and a PP version.

    which one do you usually pick when it gives the option?  what's the difference?

  • PP is the better choice for both Carrara and DAZ studio as less likely to use mc6 files

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    Mystarra said:

    the old shoe house

    was trying to get the shoe house balcony in the shot angel

    I love that set.  Last year, I started to model a shoe house, daydreaming becoming a PA, then I realized I already owned one.  surprise

    Can't wait to see what you do with it.

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158

    that cannon gonna blow away his straw hut away anyways .... the wolf is in for a surprise.. great render UB yes

    this one is titled

    Loki

     

    Magnificent color choices.  This one zings, as HW would say.  Dog is a wonderful touch.  With so much time left, wonder if you'd consider applying hair to the dog.  Totally unnecessary, of course.  Just wow!

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    Headwax said:

    With Photodonut filter Departing Trains

    Proving yet again that we don't need the fanciest current figures to produce great art.  Ready to illustrate a retelling of the tale.  yesyes

  • DiomedeDiomede Posts: 15,158
    edited February 2020

    The tale of Pecos Bill and Slue-Footed Sue just cries out for cartoons.  Had to look up what slue-footed means.  It means that a person's feet point outwards, the opposite of pidgeon-toed.

    For toon Bill and toon Sue, will use a method similar to making my toon horse for the precious challenge.  Here is my start on Bill.  I used the polyline tool to draw the rough outline of a thin toon male, hips slightly narrower than shoulders.  I filled the n-gon, and then divided it into quads.  In drawing the outline, I placed the points where it would be easy to turn to quads.  No hands yet because I want to model them looking down the Z axis and attach after the main body is finished.  No ears yet either.  This gave me my first WIP.

    I then added thickness and extruded once to get side edge (personal preference, not necessary).

    I then focused on the head with symmetry, roughing in circles for the eyes, and ovals for the nose and mouth.

    I then cleaned up the face a little bit, getting better edge loops for the face overall, and some of the major features.  One note - if you compare the two facial closeups, you will see that in my edit, I inverted the triangle below the oval for the mouth so that it now points up.  This is anticipating the chin.

    I pulled out some interior torso and facial points and check one level of smoothing for current status.

    As always, suggestions welcome.

     

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  • Persona Non GrataPersona Non Grata Posts: 1,365
    edited February 2020

    Not By The Hair Of My Chinny Chin-Chin!

    Fantastic fantasy image UB. There's nothing I don't like about it!

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  • Headwax said:

    I wanted to go a little retro with this so I used Mat and Maddie - I can tell you the k4 figures were a great improvment!

    Hansel and Gretel - post wotk in affinity photo, fotosketcher, filter forge and photodonut - spoilt for choice!

    Love the luminous 'water colour' look of this image post!

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