[Released] Gescon, CSG plugin for Daz Studio [commercial]

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  • I'd like to create a circular half stage like this image (not the legs, just the base). Can one do it with Gescon, and if yes how? I was thinking creating it from a cylinder primitive, but no idea how.

    Thanks in advance.

     

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  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,436

    DoctorJellybean said:

    I'd like to create a circular half stage like this image (not the legs, just the base). Can one do it with Gescon, and if yes how? I was thinking creating it from a cylinder primitive, but no idea how.

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Yes.

    Create two cylinder primitives, with different diameters. Do a difference operation to cut the larger cylinder with the smaller one. Then, do another difference operation between the first result and a cube of the proper size to get the half stage. 

    You can also do the difference operations in one step by selecting first the larger cylinder as node "A" and then the other cylinder and the cube as "B".nodes.

  • Alberto said:

    DoctorJellybean said:

    I'd like to create a circular half stage like this image (not the legs, just the base). Can one do it with Gescon, and if yes how? I was thinking creating it from a cylinder primitive, but no idea how.

    Thanks in advance.

     

    Yes.

    Create two cylinder primitives, with different diameters. Do a difference operation to cut the larger cylinder with the smaller one. Then, do another difference operation between the first result and a cube of the proper size to get the half stage. 

    You can also do the difference operations in one step by selecting first the larger cylinder as node "A" and then the other cylinder and the cube as "B".nodes.

    Thank you. I tried it, and ended up with a mess. This is what I want, may have to try something else.

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  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,436

    Try this:

    Create three concentric cylinders:

    Move the internal cylinders like in the image:

    Create three boxes of the same height as the cylinders. Position them like in the next two images.

    Select the gray cylinder and click on the Difference button.

     Click on the Difference button again (with nothing selected). The plugin will ask for the B nodes. Select all, except the gray cylinder.

    Click in Accept to get the result:

    In my example, the settings in the Gescon Pane were:

    • Precision: 4.0
    • Surface Adaptivity: 0.005

    The remaining settings were the default. You can change the settings to your needs.

    Attached is a duf with the arrangement of the primitives.

     

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  • Thank you very much!

  • johnbpjohnbp Posts: 55

    I hate it when someone bumps an old thread and I see something I must buy immediately.  Damn... take my money and thanks for all of your must have tools!

  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,436

    DoctorJellybean said:

    Thank you very much!

    You're welcome!

    johnbp said:

    I hate it when someone bumps an old thread and I see something I must buy immediately.  Damn... take my money and thanks for all of your must have tools!

    Thank you. smiley

  • Difference between two cylinders, then shaded the inner wall, lots of distortions. Is there any way to create a cleaner UV?

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  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,436

    pixelquack said:

    Difference between two cylinders, then shaded the inner wall, lots of distortions. Is there any way to create a cleaner UV?

    Before doing the Gescon operation, rotate the two cylinders so their lateral sides are vertical (like in the image). Then select the Cylindrical UV map projection and do the operation. The projection depends on the orientation of the objects.

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  • pixelquackpixelquack Posts: 288
    edited February 2023

    Yes, that works indeed, thanks. I have a hard time grokking the overall concept, could you illustrate -- a quick sketch suffices -- the projection types a bit?

    One other issue: today I bought "Street of Tondo", the main street is a closed mesh consisting of several meshes fused into one object. I wanted to poke a hole into the street, but no matter what I do, creating the difference by first selecting the street prop, then the cylinder results in those blobby leftovers as seen in the pics. 

    I tried various projections and precision/adaptivity values and am not getting anywhere. Appreciate some help.

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  • AlbertoAlberto Posts: 1,436

    When using large objects, the maximum precision value (12) might not be enough. In this case, try to scale down the object before doing the operation (later, you can resize the result).

    If this doesn't work, please upload a screenshot of the Scene pane and another of the viewport using the Wireframe DrawStyle.

     

  • What I'm trying to create is a cutout in a cube, so I do the difference between 2 cubes, with the 2nd cube slightly smaller and raised so that the one side is still covered. I then end up a cube with rounded edges instead of clean and sharp like a cube.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,240

    DoctorJellybean said:

    What I'm trying to create is a cutout in a cube, so I do the difference between 2 cubes, with the 2nd cube slightly smaller and raised so that the one side is still covered. I then end up a cube with rounded edges instead of clean and sharp like a cube.

    I don't know if you can get it perfectly sharp on the edges.

    Did you select Cubic UV map projection?
    Did you try increasing the Precision? (don't go wild; it will take a long time to process.)

     

     

  • DoctorJellybeanDoctorJellybean Posts: 8,464
    edited August 2023

    barbult said:

    DoctorJellybean said:

    What I'm trying to create is a cutout in a cube, so I do the difference between 2 cubes, with the 2nd cube slightly smaller and raised so that the one side is still covered. I then end up a cube with rounded edges instead of clean and sharp like a cube.

    I don't know if you can get it perfectly sharp on the edges.

    Did you select Cubic UV map projection?
    Did you try increasing the Precision? (don't go wild; it will take a long time to process.)

    Yes for Cubic UV map projection. The Precision I left at the default

    Edit: Setting it to 4 solved it. Thank you for suggesting increasing it.

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  • LoonyLoony Posts: 1,817

    Gordig said:

    Georgehaze said:

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like most (maybe not all) of what this offeres is already available in Bryce, which DAZ gives away for free.

    Other than working as a module within DAZ Studio, am I missing something?

    Most of Alberto's products in general focus on bring functionality into Daz Studio that has long existed in other software. I'm comfortable working in C4D (and, to a lesser extent, Houdini), so I have no problem working in other apps to accomplish what I want, so I have little use for what he offers. The same is not true of every other DS user, so there is definitely still value for people who those who don't want to leave DS or learn other programs.

    Exactly me, I only leave Daz3D for Gimp, but I don't use any other modeling software.

    I make 90% of editing with meshgrabber and the Geoeditor and my Art is great ^_^

    I just would like a tool like Substance Painter, I want to draw inside of Daz3D sutdio on the clothes to make cute designs or on the body or on objects.

    I don't know how complicated the import/export would be with substance painter, I also don't know if there does any other software excist who can do that.

  • mikethe3dguymikethe3dguy Posts: 515
    edited November 2023

    Alberto,

    I'm doing a fracture operation and trying to get a shape to fracture more in longer, vertical pieces, to simulate wood splintering along the grain. I'm using cutter 7 which is that elongated one. I have tried positioning the cutter itself vertically, but that's only given me limited success. Is there anything else I can do to get closer to my goal? Can rotating the points node to different orientations have any effect?

    Thanks

    SOLVED. Edit: I pretty much figured it out - just disabled rotations and increased the number of points.

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  • I bought this https://www.daz3d.com/gescon-constructive-solid-geometry-for-daz-studio.

    The Daz page says there's a PDF. Where is the PDF? The video on the Daz page shows a whole gescon dialog to work with. It doesn't appear in my list of panels. 

    How does it work?

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  • jmucchiello said:

    I bought this https://www.daz3d.com/gescon-constructive-solid-geometry-for-daz-studio.

    The Daz page says there's a PDF. Where is the PDF? The video on the Daz page shows a whole gescon dialog to work with. It doesn't appear in my list of panels. 

    How does it work?

    I don't have it currently installed, but you should find it in

    C:\Program Files\DAZ 3D\DAZStudio4\\docs\Plugins\Gescon Constructive Solid Geometry\

  • Did you install the actual plug-in as well as the videos? Theya re separate packages. How did you install? Plug-ins go in the application folder and need elevated permissions ("Do you want to allow DIMHelper to make chnages on this system?")

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126
    edited September 15

    Daz Install Manager

    I don't know what you mean by "as well as the videos". I bought it from the Daz store and installed like anything else I buy there.

    EDIT: I forgot all about the serial number thing

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  • jmucchiello said:

    Daz Install Manager

    I don't know what you mean by "as well as the videos". I bought it from the Daz store and installed like anything else I buy there.

    EDIT: I forgot all about the serial number thing

    There are 2 zips; one contains the plugin and documentation, the other props, etc.

  • Yeah. It was the serial number that was the issue.Thanks.

  • What do I do when this happens? Daz's CPU usage is less than 3-5%. Memory keeps going up in 32k increments. How long should this take? I'm just intersecting two primitives. (A hi-res disk, aka flat cylinder and a low res cube)

     

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  • jmucchiello said:

    What do I do when this happens? Daz's CPU usage is less than 3-5%. Memory keeps going up in 32k increments. How long should this take? I'm just intersecting two primitives. (A hi-res disk, aka flat cylinder and a low res cube)

    It will take some time at the Precision setting you set. Leave it and wait.

  • jmucchiello said:

    What do I do when this happens? Daz's CPU usage is less than 3-5%. Memory keeps going up in 32k increments. How long should this take? I'm just intersecting two primitives. (A hi-res disk, aka flat cylinder and a low res cube)

    How many therads does your CPU offer? A 12 core/24 thread CPU at 4-5% would be one thread maxed out.

  • i9 24 core (32 virtual). Memory still climbing at 32k per second, give or take.

    If I set precision any lower, the resulting object is jagged with little cuts and divots around the edges.

     

  • jmucchiello said:

    i9 24 core (32 virtual). Memory still climbing at 32k per second, give or take.

    If I set precision any lower, the resulting object is jagged with little cuts and divots around the edges.

    You do know that there is an upgraded version?

    https://www.daz3d.com/gescon-ii-constructive-solid-geometry--upgrade

  • jmucchiellojmucchiello Posts: 126
    edited September 15

    Why would I know that? Is there an upgrade path?

    Daz is now taking up 114GB of the 128GB I have installed.

    EDIT: Dropped to 88GB and now 20%. I guess it's still running.

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  • jmucchiello said:

    Why would I know that? Is there an upgrade path?

    Daz is now taking up 114GB of the 128GB I have installed.

    The one I linked is for people who own the original, and is at a discounted price. It requires the original to be installed.

  • So, it finished, created the new item in the scene list. And Daz is not responding. 93GB of ram moving +/- a few meg but staying at that level. It's been like 5 minutes now.

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