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Have a M2 Max machine with 96 GB here. Rendering speed is unfortunately still far behind a PC with a decent GPU.
Is OK for my purpose and I think at least dForce is a bit faster than it used to be.
Still once iRay or Studio would provide Metal-support things could be way faster I assume.
Studio will in the future most probably support Metal for viewport (replacing OpenGL) and for Filament (uses Metal on macOS) , but Iray is nVidia's baby and wont support any other GPU hardware, ever.
On apple.com, you can select "Contact us" And under McIntosh Pro, You can add a "Feature request." I suggested to Apple that they could make more money by allowing an Nvidia card to be placed in the next generation of McIntosh pros, or By providing a container for an Nvidia card that could be hooked up to the Mac studio or Macintosh Pro. I'm wondering whether more people making the same kind of suggestion would influence Apple to actually do that. If you think so, perhaps you could also make such a suggestion.
I pointed out to Apple that there are online sites where McIntosh users could pay to use Nvidia to render 3-D scenes. I said why should those sites get all that money? If Apple did what I've suggested above, sure iNvidia video would get some of the money, but Apple could also charge for adding this feature, and Apple would make more money also. I also mentioned being a DAZ Studio User. Anyway, that's my feature request to Apple, And I'm hoping Apple Will do this.
I think the grudge goes deeper than that. Apple are still pissed off that they asked nVidia to develop a custom graphics chip for the iPhone, then sold the same chip to Samsung.
And Apple has for many years told developers that they will only need one API, Metal, but there is no Metal support what I know of for nVidia, and also, having GPUs from different vendors in the same machine is something you just do not wanna support, it's just asking for weird crashes.
Iray Server (your own or rent-by-the-minute) is what you will need to to, but you can render quite a lof of hours on a rent-by-the-minute for what you have to shell out for a new nVidia card, and you can always grab a bigger if your scene requires that, and use smaller ones if you do not need an A6000 48GB VRAM monster.
OK, well maybe that is the way to go then, especially if I could switch between a smaller and larger video card as the need arises. Too bad that Apple and nVidia can't make up, though.
I did purchase a low end gaming PC a couple of years ago. Tried to use it for DAZ Studio (and some Photoshop.)
The nVidia RTX 3060 (12GB VRAM) was awesome for the type of renders I do. Less than 20-30 seconds per render.
HOWEVER, Windows 11 is not working out well for me. A number of months ago, the PC would boot into a black screen. I would have to force the PC into safe mode and uninstall/reinstall the nVidia drivers to get the display working properly. This happens every few days and I've given up on the PC. I don't have the time nor patience to spend 30-45 minutes trying to turn on the PC. The card works fine during initial boot up, but when it's just getting to the desktop it's all black. I've messed around with this one PC more than every single Apple/Mac I've owned over the past 30+ years. Combined.
Once upon a time, one of my minor duties as an aerospace software engineer was managing a Windows NT cluster (and developing business related software on them.) I have no desire to go back to the near constant care that Windows requires to keep it running. :)
The PC feels like a needy child and the Mac feels like a faithful companion. I just turn the Mac on and it works.
That said, it would be nice for Apple to allow the use of e-GPUs on the new Macs. Or for them to give the DAZ team assistance on getting DS updated for current Macs.
To recap: the HP Omen desktop PC I got was cheap ($1300-ish), I added a 4TB NVME SSD and 32GB more RAM on top of that. So if you are more willing and PC-savvy, a PC will go a long way to improving Iray rendering for not a lot of money. Windows is a bit bothersome and I suspect there's a conflict with the more recent nVidia drivers, the PC, Windows 11, and/or the RTX 3060 that cause the black screen boot up. Oh, and I had no trouble duplicating the Mac's content library, etc. over to the PC. It's too bad that I don't have a usable/stable PC platform for accelerated Iray rendering.
I've wanted to throw that PC out the window so many times! LOL!
I love my Macs and even without super fast rendering on the PC, would welcome performance improvements brought by the newest Apple Silicon chips. But only if DAZ releases a better version of DS than what we have now. Filament and Filatoon looked great on the PC the last time it booted up. Filament on the Mac would be great. Too bad the older Qt development system can't support Filament on the Mac. Hopefully, IF Daz releases DAZ Studio built from a newer version of Qt, Filament, stability, UI fixes, and maybe more feature pairty with the PC will come along - and not be put behind a subscription paywall. Not holding my breath on any of it. They had Filament running on the Mac 3 or 4 years ago per the DS 5 forum post from way back.
Anyway, I'll continue to refrain from purchasing much here until we get something acceptable for Mac. It's been tempting to dive in and buy stuff, but the future of DS on Mac is unknown and uncertain. The wait has been long and my interest in waiting any more is waning.
Lee
I hear what you're saying Lee. By the way, I'm still noticing and appreciating your figures that you post on a particular site.
Now I'm reading about thunderbolt 5. I have thunderbolt 2 on my Macintosh Pro, late 2013 edition. With connectors, I should be able to connect to a current Mac with thunderbolt 4, so that I could transfer my files over.
if I don't buy a Mac until there's one with thunderbolt 5, and if there isn't a connector to go from thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 5, would there be a service to copy my files over for me, or to transfer my files onto a drive that is thunderbolt 5 compatible? Would an outfit like Best Buy be able to do this? What would be the best way to accomplish this, or whom would I contact?
has anyone had experience with this issue before?
Thunderbolt 5 is compatible with Thunderbolt 3 and 4. The Apple Thunderbolt 2 -> 3 adapter can connect the drivers to the tunderbolt 5 port.
@Totte: Ah, wonderful! Thanks so much for that information.
Support for macOS is improving, maybe not as fast as you would like. It doesn't help that Apple seems to throw a few spanners in the works with each OS update, but I wouldn't lose interest.
Thank you for the encouragement, Doctorjellybean.
Sadly, I have just now come to the conclusion that I'm out for good with DAZ.
Just back from the ER with my 90 year mother. Today was the 3rd ER/911 call in the past 9 days. Her needs have outpaced my ability to care for her after the last 6 years of my 24/7/365 caregiving.
Thank you to everyone for welcoming me into the DAZ fold (as a Poser user from the beginning.) It really has been a pleasure to pursue my 3D hobbies, both with software I've written and through Poser and finally DAZ.
Take care!
Lee
p.s. Hug someone you love or let them know you love them.
Lee, hold on.
very important : You must take care of yourself in order to take care of your Mother .
I lost my spouse about a year and eight months ago, and I dropped out of DAZ For a while. I know what Grief can do to you, because it's done it to me, and I'm still not over it. I'll send you an email so we don't block up this forum. You probably need contact in a group more than ever, even if a lot of your time is going to be taken up with your mother. If you've changed your email, let me know so that I can reach you. I hope others in this forum reach out to you also. Believe me, I do know how you feel. I had to take my spouse to emergency rooms over and over again, for years. The worry and the grief can be devastating. I only wish I had seen this yesterday as soon as you posted it.
I just sent you a couple of emails, Lee. If you've changed your email, please let me know so that I can get through to you. Please, please do not isolate.
Again, very important: You must take care of yourself in order to take care of your mother. Dropping out of things is not a way to take care of yourself. Please believe me.
Lee, please let me join Inquire in offering you all of my solace and support. Sadly, I've had experiences that make me understand how you're feeling, so believe me when i say I know and comprehend your difficulties and pain. Sincerely, feel free to reach out to us when you need to talk to somebody who may not be able to do much practically, but at least would listen with an open heart. I agree with Inquire in suggesting you don't isolate yourserlf; also, if there are support groups where you live go and join them. In the while, please accept an enourmus hug from Italy
Did Lee Moon delete his Forum on Lee's Men, Muscles, Morphs, or some such name? I received an email that he had commented in that Forum, but when I clicked on the link, I got the message "No such page available." If anyone has a link, could you please post it?
Yes, removed the images and we removed the thread.
I need to clarify this... I did delete the images, marked the thread closed, and asked for moderators to delete the thread. It was all at my request. Thank you, Richard for honoring that request. :)
I'll keep my friends up to date privately in the next day or so. Don't want to clutter the forums with this. Thank you to all for the concern!!! :)
Lee
I've been waiting over 4 years to run Filament on my Macs, and Filitoon only makes me want it more. Sadly, though, they can improve the MacOS support ten times over and it doesn't make any difference to me until DAZ Studio 5 comes out.
On the plus side, I saved hundreds of dollars on Filatoon products over the last couple of weeks and since I've stopped my usual spending while I wait to see what DAZ Studio 5 will do, I've saved a few thousand dollars (at least).
On the same boat here. Filatoon stuff is kind of flooding the store. And as a Mac Premier Member I still feel kind of left out from the party.