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Yes, like a mutant, the Beast from the X-Men before he grew blue fur is the 1st character I thought of.
Wow! That is what I was going for. He is still my favorite X-man. Nicholas Hoult is a great actor but I thought totally wrong to play Beast. I think because Beast is scholarly they thought they needed someone who looked like a professor. Thank you again for the comment.
The animation is 976 MB. Is that too big to have as an attachment? I try to upload it here and it says uploading and then freezes.
Hi Sigurd! What format is the animation? I just tried to attach my updated video and the .mp4 file type is not allowed. Will send it over to youtube and link to it below.
Lee
https://youtu.be/XLwMJv5SXos
OpenGL. I just tried again at a lower resolution but it did not help.
I like how the renders people posted demonstrating AME can add the musclar tension that base G8M lacks in certain poses. I am wondering if this can be achieved without making a characeter more ripped or bulked?
For me it's very important because I don't render bodybuilder characters but also do not like the lack of realism of musclar tension in poses. I also hope AME G8F takes into account that woman has more body fat than man and too much muscle enhancement could ruin anyone going for a natural looking character.
!53570k, here are some comparisons. I have a totally base G8M on the left and exact same G8M on the right. The one on the right has AME installed. I have one example of the AME full and the rest are dialed down quite a bit to illustrate a subtle difference. This I believe demonstrates the muscle tension you were asking about without the added muscle bulk or volume. If you would like further examples, please let me know as I am happy to demonstrate. If you have a particular pose or view please let me know, I will see what I can do. The pics should be labeled so you can see the details of the dials.
way to go. 1st step on to the giant leap. Yes, when you start learning animation. do not spend time rendering out images. Alway just do GL rendering or work at the base level to review the animation in real-time.
Also, to get that V shape back muscle - activate try turning the arm or shoulder.
1-Try slappy animation = pose him at every 1/2 frames. That is make a pose at f100 then go back to f50 to make corection, then fix f25 and f75. alway go back 1/2 of the frames.
2- Master the foot planting on the ground above all else.
3-have fun. save out your animation and start selling the animation.
Wonderful images. Love it.
1-try composite 2 or more render images. Like photoshop you have 2 layers.
render one image with muscle veins and more defined details - then composite over the normal image - now erase the region where you need no detail...putting stress and detail muscle only on the arm area.
This way will add even more life to you already amazing works. (save shape setting so you can just turn on and off on next pose+image)
Oh, very nice, Lee. I'm also on a Mac. When I tried Open GL, just on a still, the lighting seemed way too high. Did you have to lower the lighting for the animation? Or, did you have to make any adjustments at all in going from iRay to Open GL as the render mode? And you did just use Open GL, not Intermediate Open GL, right? I like the skin coloring in your animation. I think it's very good.
D.Master: I don't want to change the subject of the thread, but could you give some explanation as to why you render with Marmoset? Also, can it import a DAZ scene? Do the shaders come in OK? Is it faster than DS? Do you need the Nvidia GPUs?
it is real time rendering. Daz will move on to this about next year or so. if not they will fall behind.
I cannot teach you about Marmoset materials, but the best bet is just open a sample skin material scene and then load in daz maps.
it get easier as you understand it use. It will save you years of rendering. once the material are set you can just load in any characters.
1-open daz and export your character as OBJ. Export FBX to get material - seperate the material to load back on to OBJ. FBX do not have Joints morphs fix. Thus OBJ is the best.
2-open Marmoset import your OBJ
3-in Daz post your character and export to same file - Marmoset will update the OBJ file and render in real time
4-it is GPU render - faster the better but need not. I work with a 970GTX
Thank you Dmaster! I started tinkering with animation way back when I had an Amiga with the NewTek VideoToaster card. It came with Lightwave 3D v1.0. Back then, renders and animation took a very long time to complete. This would have been in the mid to late 1980's. We've come a very long way since then! I'm still too impatient to wait for animation renders, though the OpenGL pre-viz format renders quite fast.
I'm truly enjoying your AME and ASE products. They add so much to the Genesis 8 Male characters. Thank you for creating these invaluable tools!!
Lee
Thank you very much, inquire! I did a small update to that animation last night that prevents the figure from doing a spin halfway through the video. It's a few posts up from here.
The OpenGL animation rendering takes significantly less time than Iray for sure. I did not use Intermediate OpenGL, just the standard OpenGL option. The light set I used was the IBL_Light preset (comes with DAZ Studio?) I have adjusted the intensity on all 3 lights to get the glossiness I was looking for. Two of the lights are specular and one infinite light was for overall light. I believe the texture set is mostly from Dark Guard, probably with some different eye textures. Didn't adjust the textures at all, just played a little with the lights to highlight the physique. Also on the 2 specular lights, I used Point At to aim the lights at the lower abdomen which seems to cast light nicely across the figure. Hope this helps some!
Lee
@leemoon_c43b45a Thanks very much, Lee. I'll have to try this. I tried some animations before, but they took too long.
What video format is the animation? The forum won't take MP4 as far as I can tell. I didn't investigate further and just decided to chuck my videos onto youtube and call it a day. :)
Lee
You are very welcome. The animation I posted earler is 900 frames and it rendered to a .mov video in less time than it took for me to set up the animation to begin with. It wasn't even close to real time, but it was still WAY faster than Iray. I seem to recall it took about 15 or 20 minutes to complete the 900 frames and write the video file. Could be wrong about the time, I just knew it was a lot peppier than I was thinking it would be.
Lee
Lee, it is an AVI file. I just tried to attach it again to no avail. I guess it is still life for me.
Below is Brutus resigning himself to not being able to attach the video.
Not to derail this thread, but has anyone tried exporting their AME animation from Daz in Alembic format and then rendering in Marmoset Toolbag? In theory, it should work as long as the Daz Alembic exporter really is "vertex exact," as the product page says.
It may be that the forum only accepts still imagery, since neither AVI nor MP4 are able to be uploaded.
On the sunny side, your still images and characters are excellent and I enjoy viewing them. Brutus looks awesome.
Lee
https://youtu.be/o2DauchvTkA
ABC render in marmoset. Once in marmoset it just play. And I can pan around the animation. Video was just a scene capt of Mamoset.
Wow, that's awesome! And I'm guessing it took a tiny fraction of the time to render compared to iRay
real-time render with good 1080+GPU
Thank you very much. Those dials give me a pretty good idea of how AME works. I am happy to see that ~25 AME adds so much realism in muscular tension in poses without altering the intrinsic looks. The two from right renders are espeially telling in that the character looks like he is actually standing againt gravity instead of just existing in space.
Very much looking forward to how AME G8F turns out.
i53570k, I am glad I can help. This is such a versatile product, if you do not like how it looks, keep playing with the dials and you probably will.
I don't want to derail this thread, either, but, please, what is Alembic format? Then, D.Master answered, "ABC render in Marmoset." Don't know what that means, either. Is ABC the same as Alembic? Does "I can pan aroiund the animation" mean within Marmoset? And the video D.Master posted was "just a scene caption" from Marmoset? Wasn't it a full render?
I'm just trying to understand the full potentials of this wonderful product. I'm playing around right at this moment with animaltion in DAZ Studio, Basic Open GL.
I"m really eager about this because Marmoset can apparently use Apple's Metal GPU rendering, and, I guess you know, nVidia is feuding with Apple, so it looks like iRay is out of the Question for Mac users, at least iRay in GPU (CPU only).
The Blender manual actually has a pretty good explanation of Alembic here:
https://docs.blender.org/manual/en/latest/files/import_export/alembic.html
Basically, it allows you to transfer pure mesh data (static or animated) between 3d applications, such as Daz and Marmoset, without having to worry about the usual incompatibilities that you get with formats like FBX and DAE.
@hookflash: OK, thanks for the info, hookflash.
From a Google search I've just done on Marmoset:
Marmoset Toolbag uses a somewhat customized shader language, which is a kind of union of HLSL and GLSL syntax conventions. ... This syntax allows Toolbag shaders to compile and run in Direct3D, OpenGL, and more recently Apple's Metal.
This is something beyond this forum. FYI
ABC is just a file format like FBX or OBJ. Daz will export it out as ABC. Open Marmoset and import in ABC and you see the animation. It does not have Materials. It only has vertexes translation info. (you will need Daz3d alembic plugin to do this)
For Now, Just Use FBX on export. For you to see the animation + some material. note FBX does not have the Joint morphs embedded in the export.
If not Marmoset. DAZ Iray will do the job nicely - time.