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Daz is not a site I would be too worried about. Plenty of other sites that are far more alarming.
Not really as what adult content is here on this site, is nothing compared to the likes of Renderotica, which caters to the more risqué end of the 3D content spectrum.
No, it doesn't
Oh, I don't know. I was scarred for life in my mid 20's when I took my parents-in-law to a nudist camp and saw way more of my FIL than I ever wanted to. And.. the number of middle aged crimes against aesthetics covered up by clothing is incredible. So, it is possible to have your aesthetic sensibility harmed by a nude body. Regards, Richard.
^ This is almost exactly what I was going to say, except I went with a friend and her family. My thoughts were pretty much: "Ewww .. gross! Put some clothes on!" I was closer to 20 at the time, and all I have to say in my defense is that one can be pretty smug and judgey at that age.
The arguments about kids seeing this stuff seem odd since they're going to see some of it if they start loading figures into Daz. Sure, Michael loads without naughty bits, but many of the female characters have their parts painted onto the textures. And there is no warning for innocent eyes who are unaware. It's probably better to be open and up front about everything in the store so new comers know what to expect before they download DS and start buying characters to mess with.
Buying something via credit or debit requires a financial account which must have a parent's permission to open in the USA if the child is under the age of 18. Also, I never had to have parental permission to get a library card or browse any book held in any library. Many of those libraries are digitized now as well as art museums with no proof of age or even one's true identity neccessary. DAZ hasn't anything on those places. Consider that those remote connections being used must be being paid for by a parent, a guardian, a government, or another business.
Does the US not have prepaid credit cards, don't need proof of age or bank account for one of those.
Me personally? Sure! Since all my renders are fully clothed, I have no need for either. Currently I don't have the anotomical elements turned on for any of my characters, and a lack of nipples would mean I could stop dealing with poke-through on the shirts. The only time it would look weird is if I have a fellow in swim trunks. Which so far I haven't wound up needing, but you never know. I might do a beach thing at some point.
...but, that said, I also have no issue with the whole package existing for folk who need it for their renders (bodies are just bodies, after all) and I think those people should be able to see what they're buying before they buy it.
They do, but they must be activated after purchase and you must prove who you are. Sorry, kiddos no prepaid without your legal guardian / parents explicit permission. And it's still known that some people use fake identities to be able to use burner phones and prepaid cards with a lesser chance of being traced. One can't blame DAZ for that. Many people are told to use fake identities and kids are told that as well. Based on my experience I understand why they feel that way, but that only helps make matters worse ultimately.
Creating an account at Daz still doesn't require any sort of financial account, although buying something other than freebies does if one doesn't have store credit (in the past, Daz has given some for free).
Having an account gives one access to the account settings to disable mature filter. (which was the point)
I do all my purchases with prepaid MasterCards bought with cash and the activation is done with the prepaid (bought with cash) mobile number I use for my mobile router:
At no point of the process, is my age or name asked or verified.
"If you don't have a good body, cover it the **** up"
- Drew Carey
Got to move with the times so I'm cool with it. It is the 90s after all
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Um, hello? What store have you been looking at for the last two decades? The problem with assuming that there's only so much need for lingerie, bikinis, and dancewear and that the demand for it will eventually taper off is that it's based on a flawed idea that is easily disproven by the fact that there's just as much underwear/etc. now as there has ever been. As long as DAZ continues to "reboot" the whole system every couple of years by launching a new line of base figures and new technology like dforce and new shading systems, and as long as new products are placed in the store at a rate that paces the introduction of new customers to the user base, that market isn't going to go away. Nor am I saying that it should.
Which is why I suggested DAZ Originals being the most logical venue for getting such products created. Unlike normal PA products, most DAZ Originals are, the last I heard, complete buy outs where the PA gets a flat chunk of change and sells all rights to DAZ. Basically, if there are certain types of product needed to help expand the appeal of DAZ's product beyond the core niche user base, then that's the most logical way to get them created, and I doubt you'll find many who wouldn't agree that a lot of what's been released in the last few years has been of relatively limited utility. Of course, all of that is presuming that DAZ actually wants to expand their base market, and there's no way to tell if they would consider it worth the expenditures involved. That said, consider that Mattel didn't create Ken as a product that was supposed to appeal to young girls on his own, but rather they created him because the presence of a Ken was necessary for the continued expansion of what was possible within the Barbie universe.
Right: Nudity does not mean porn. But it depends on how a person was brought up. If someone has been told since childhood that nudity is sinful and that looking at naked people leads straight to hell, the sudden sight can be shocking even for adults.
I have nothing against nudity at Daz, but if, like at the other shop, an avalanche of voluptuous breasts were to roll towards me now, it would disturb me. This excess on the often terribly cheap looking promos for an oversupply of skimpwear is the reason why I only buy very selectively from this other shop.
I aggree on that. I think it is hard to find a set of rules, allowing nudity, but avoiding those over the top, right in your face, super stylized sexual imageries at the same time.
Not, because it disturbs me, but because DAZ is just not he place for that.
I'd be all in for allowing an artistic erotic nudity level, like known from 70s Playboy or photo art galleries.
The human body is beautiful in all its glory and gory details. There is no reason to be ashamed or to look away.
I dont have a problem with store page having images of nude characters.
as some have said the problem has been that some characters have some much cover up that you cannot see what your getting until its to late.
(yes I know about the return policy, but it is a pain to have t go back in a remove files in the hopw it doesnt mess other things up)
The problem I do have is when characters that look under age or very young are dressed in skimpy outfits or in skimpy out fits in seductive poses.
maybe if nude characters were shown in the default pose only, front, back and side. these could not be take as seductive.
Also maybe it would stop vendors getting bashed by keyboard warriors (then again maybe not, they just need any passing band wagon)
just an idea
No-one posting here is doing so as part of a client-advisor relationship, so statements of legal or quasi-legal opinion should be avoided.
As someone in their 70s, I am surprised how protected the younger members of the forum have been! Did you not discover your parents' stash of Playboy, Playgirl, or Hustler magazines as a kid? You didn't share the shower or swim naked with other kids or your parents? Or sneak to the neighbor's house to watch the Playboy channel since your folks didn't subscribe to it? (My son did that one.) My earliest attempts at drawing was due to the comics in those mags.
Back to the original subject matter of the thread, I generally avoided Rendo because of the number of offerings that were little more than three triangles with a string connecting them. And the bad search engine. I only went there when someone was kind enough to point me to a PA or a particular item I appreciated they had shown in the forums. So my selections have been animals, sets, normal clothing, historical outfits included, hairs, shaders, and a few characters.
If DAZ3d starts to be awash with skimpwear, well, money saved. I know that my favorite PAs will still create great things I can buy, and I will have the credit waiting for them. And that will leave more of the other products for those who do want them. No harm, no foul. Peace to all.
This turn of phrase is fantastic and cracked me up. Thank you. I needed a giggle today.
If only daz3d's search engine were that "bad."
Well there is bad and then there is BAD! Depends I think on how familiar one is on the technique of bad coding and how screwy one's mind is to interpret it. After 45 years dealing with computer databases (military and medical devices) I got use to really weird ones in a variety of languages. And rebuilt a few. God help me.
So glad. Finally. I was sick of seeing outfits on mannequins. Daz went briefly backwards going too prude and finally we can see how clothes fit on a rendered body and see parts that were too hidden before. That said, I wish Daz & PAs would render outfit parts separately rather than always show the full outfit together. This is a bit OT but when there is pants with boots and a shirt and a jacket, I wish they'd show the pants without the boots and the top without the jacket. Some PAs do, but most don't. And show material zones! Sorry, that's OT but something that drives me crazy in promos.
As was apparently common at the time, I found a stash of porn magazines in the woods when I was young.
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I remember purchasing your https://www.daz3d.com/bodyscapes-for-genesis-8-female very well so I know you can back up your comment! It is really hilarious when you use the https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-8-cross-figure-resource-kit!
I saw a comment where someone worried that PA's would suddenly start focussing their attention on assets for adult/porn use. I just want to say, I personally think that fear is unfounded. I became a PA because developers of adult visual novels encouraged me to do so. Not because they wanted new genitals, or sex related items, but because they needed more everyday assets. In my case, food that can be used to illustrate a meal being eaten throughout a dinner date. Or a 'normal' car, that has seats that recline, doors that open, wheels that turn, or lciense plates that can easily be customized. Granted, my most recent asset is a strip club. But overall, PAs are going to keep making the kind of assets they're already making. Or they'll keep exploring new ideas that inspire them just like always. My next project won't be sex poses, or genitals, or whatever else either. And neither will the one after that. Over time, if Daz proves to be a more friendly harbor for adult assets, we may see some PA's experiment with it. But Daz is brinigng in new PA's all the time. Just look at all the renderosity vendors that have just made the switch. There is always a constant influx of new PA's that don't benefit from such exposure. And I have no doubt that many of them will focus on the kinds of assets you've been seeing for years. I personally welcome the fact that Daz is taking a less victorian approach to nudity, while also ensuring that people who don't want to see it have to take active steps to unlock it. I think it's the right approach. As a PA on this platform, I want to see it succeed and grow. And PA's are going to try to fill any under-served niches in the market if there are sales to support it. So, I'm wholly supportive of Daz's newer direction. Even if I think it was a bit daft to let an AI loose on classifying 'mature content' for existing promos that were approved under the older, more prudish guidelines. That was a decision that feels like an own-goal to me lol
I'm not on your level, of course, Ms. Mary. I'm so simple as to expect that if I type the exact name of a product into a search field, then it will be included in the results (as always happens at Rendo), or if I recall recently seeing, say hypothetically, a hair dryer in a product's promo, I can type "hair dryer" and get all the hair dryers in the store, as opposed to here, where a product with "hair dryer" in the name may be excluded from the search results, and products with hair dryers in the product description may be excluded as well. I remember a time when this was not so, and its end coincided with November 2020.
I don't understand why anyone has a problem with the search option. I type in what I'm looking for and that's what I get. True there is a page or more of items, however what I'm looking for is usually at the top of the list and then other items that may be related to my search in case I typed it wrong and after that I get a wtf bunch of items that don't even closely relate. I still get what I'm looking for near the top and that's what matters.