Anime Toons and Filatoon Shader Q&A

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  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,396

    Gendragon3D said:

    Hello everyone! I'm at a loss of how to render for Filatoon. Understanding that if I want a realistic image, in the Render-Setting, I enable it by default in NVIDIA Iray (MDL) mode. And in the case of Filatoon, how do you render a scene to be able to save an image? Thank you very much for the little angel who can help me. ^_^

    To render a Filatoon scene, choose Viewport as the render engine. Set your render settings for a decently large size as that seems to help with how they turn out.

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  • t0mg_zt0mg_z Posts: 51

    Thank you! I noticed on the Material panel, that the Vicky 9 shader has the "Receive Shadows" option disabled. Toggling it on projects the shadows you see on her.

    Also, I converted the textures of the scene to FilaToon and re-added the missing opacity maps. I also played around with the options on Tone Mapping and that's it.  

    3Diva said:

    t0mg_z said:

    Playing around with this thing. Took a while to figure out how to get shadows on her skin:

     

    That looks great! Care to share how you did it? laugh

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,435

    t0mg_z said:

    Thank you! I noticed on the Material panel, that the Vicky 9 shader has the "Receive Shadows" option disabled. Toggling it on projects the shadows you see on her.

    Also, I converted the textures of the scene to FilaToon and re-added the missing opacity maps. I also played around with the options on Tone Mapping and that's it.  

    3Diva said:

    t0mg_z said:

    Playing around with this thing. Took a while to figure out how to get shadows on her skin:

     

    That looks great! Care to share how you did it? laugh

    Ahhh I see - Recieve Shadows, that makes a HUGE difference in scenes like this. Thank you!

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,939
    edited October 19

    3Diva said:

    Ahhh I see - Recieve Shadows, that makes a HUGE difference in scenes like this. Thank you!

    @3Diva You can also enable shadows for the lights, here an example using the distant light.  Unfortunately you can't adjust Intensity and Softness, but hopefully that will come later.

    https://app.screencast.com/9mS97tugitb3X

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  • DartanbeckDartanbeck Posts: 21,522

    Taoz said:

    3Diva said:

    Ahhh I see - Recieve Shadows, that makes a HUGE difference in scenes like this. Thank you!

    @3Diva You can also enable shadows for the lights, here an example using the distant light.  Unfortunately you can't adjust Intensity and Softness, but hopefully that will come later.

    https://app.screencast.com/9mS97tugitb3X

    I'm in the middle of a lengthy simulation right now, but I'm pretty sure that there are shadow intensity adjustments on the individual FilaToon shaders (?) - there or in the Filament Draw Options

  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,357

    We need to update the FAQ thread with all these techniques and new info.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,939
    edited October 19

    Dartanbeck said:

    Taoz said:

    3Diva said:

    Ahhh I see - Recieve Shadows, that makes a HUGE difference in scenes like this. Thank you!

    @3Diva You can also enable shadows for the lights, here an example using the distant light.  Unfortunately you can't adjust Intensity and Softness, but hopefully that will come later.

    https://app.screencast.com/9mS97tugitb3X

    I'm in the middle of a lengthy simulation right now, but I'm pretty sure that there are shadow intensity adjustments on the individual FilaToon shaders (?) - there or in the Filament Draw Options

    Yes, you're right:

    https://app.screencast.com/hUHQyD7PFxfli

    And you need to have the light's Shadow Type set to Deep Shadow Map for it to work, and Receiving Shadows must be On.  

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  • y3kmany3kman Posts: 793

    Which is the best truck-kun product I can use in my anime renders?

  • GordigGordig Posts: 10,041

    y3kman said:

    Which is the best truck-kun product I can use in my anime renders?

    The Daz store is nothing but swirlies for me right now, but Predatron Light Truck.

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,846

    y3kman said:

    Which is the best truck-kun product I can use in my anime renders?

    Except for 3djoji's Toon Truck, in fact every truck product can be converted with Filatoon ~ and reshape them a bit, to make them more toony style.

  • FantastArtFantastArt Posts: 311

    osterberg said:

    Hello, maybe you can help me...

    Loading Vicky 9 I have missing files:

    /data/DAZ 3D/Built-in Content/FilaToon-Base.dsf and

    /data/DAZ 3D/Built-in Content/FilaToon-Outline.dsf

    I work with DAZ 4.23

    Greetings from germany

    Martina

    Hast du alle neuen Packs installiert? Ich habe es am Anfang auch übersehen. Es gibt zB eine file im Install Manager die heißt "Genesis 9 Toon Starter Essentials 3of 3" 

  • FantastArtFantastArt Posts: 311

    t0mg_z said:

    Thank you! I noticed on the Material panel, that the Vicky 9 shader has the "Receive Shadows" option disabled. Toggling it on projects the shadows you see on her.

    Also, I converted the textures of the scene to FilaToon and re-added the missing opacity maps. I also played around with the options on Tone Mapping and that's it.  

    3Diva said:

    t0mg_z said:

    Playing around with this thing. Took a while to figure out how to get shadows on her skin:

     

    That looks great! Care to share how you did it? laugh

    Can you please tell me where to find the "Receive Shadows" option? 

  • FantastArtFantastArt Posts: 311

    Hello, I have some questions. Can you explain what exactly the LUT and the MatCap is and what it does. And how can I add LIE options like tattoos etc to the skin?

  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,846
    edited October 19

    FantastArt said:

    osterberg said:

    Hello, maybe you can help me...

    Loading Vicky 9 I have missing files:

    /data/DAZ 3D/Built-in Content/FilaToon-Base.dsf and

    /data/DAZ 3D/Built-in Content/FilaToon-Outline.dsf

    I work with DAZ 4.23

    Greetings from germany

    Martina

    Hast du alle neuen Packs installiert? Ich habe es am Anfang auch übersehen. Es gibt zB eine file im Install Manager die heißt "Genesis 9 Toon Starter Essentials 3of 3" 

    One has to update Default Resources package to Default Resources for DAZ Studio 4.23+ in DIM...

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  • crosswindcrosswind Posts: 6,846

    FantastArt said:

    Hello, I have some questions. Can you explain what exactly the LUT and the MatCap is and what it does. And how can I add LIE options like tattoos etc to the skin?

    On the first page of this thread, there's a PDF file attached by Mada, in which there're detailed explanation on LUT and MatCap setup.

  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,939

    FantastArt said:

    Can you please tell me where to find the "Receive Shadows" option? 

     

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  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,056
    edited October 19

    Not sure if this has been asked has anyone worked out how to deal with flat panel grass with opacity textures, such as used in Harwoord House and FG's Haunted House? When I use Filatoon on such grass it just comes out as solid panels, and so far can't work out how to get around the problem.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,224
    Reload the opacity map.
  • Ghosty12Ghosty12 Posts: 2,056
    edited October 19

    I do that well I sort of do by adding back in the cutout opacity texture used but I still get this problem.

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  • SkyewolfSkyewolf Posts: 476

     This is fantastic! :)

    t0mg_z said:

    Playing around with this thing. Took a while to figure out how to get shadows on her skin:

     

  • SkyewolfSkyewolf Posts: 476
    edited October 19

    ​This isn't anything special since I've really JUST had an opportunity to do more than open it up and load a few things here and there but here's my contribution. Really looking forward to poking at this more to see what I can come up with beyond the basic. It's so cool to see how much others have done with it in such a short time!

     

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  • TesseractSpaceTesseractSpace Posts: 1,396

    Ghosty12 said:

    I do that well I sort of do by adding back in the cutout opacity texture used but I still get this problem.

    Don't use outline shell with billboard type items. If you want an outline on transmapped flat plane items, it'd have to be part of the base texture, the shell outline won't work

  • SapphireBlueSapphireBlue Posts: 938
    edited October 19

    I'm enjoying working with filatoon so much! It's sweet and very versatile.heart I'm going to try more stylized stuff soon beyond the toon and anime realm and see how far I can push it. Meanwhile, it's fun to just do some cute renders. This one uses the G2 Florida hair from this week's biweekly freebies.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,435

    Taoz said:

    3Diva said:

    Ahhh I see - Recieve Shadows, that makes a HUGE difference in scenes like this. Thank you!

    @3Diva You can also enable shadows for the lights, here an example using the distant light.  Unfortunately you can't adjust Intensity and Softness, but hopefully that will come later.

    https://app.screencast.com/9mS97tugitb3X

    Oh cool! That is good information - thank you! I played around with it and was able to get rid of some of the pixelation of the shadows by upping the Sub Divide of the shadow object as well as adjusting the "shadows" settings in the Filament Draw Options node. :) Thank you for the great tip!

  • HighElfHighElf Posts: 365

    Is there a way to enlarge the iris with toon eyes? I have a few models that have larger eyes, but I can't find a way to scale the iris accordingly.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,435
    edited October 20

    HighElf said:

    Is there a way to enlarge the iris with toon eyes? I have a few models that have larger eyes, but I can't find a way to scale the iris accordingly.

    In the Scene Tab select the "Genesis 9 Toon Floating Iris", then in the Shaping Tab select "Eyes" and you can slide the "Eye Iris Size Larger" slider up. You can probably turn the limits off if you need the iris bigger than 100%. 

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,435

    SapphireBlue said:

    I'm enjoying working with filatoon so much! It's sweet and very versatile.heart I'm going to try more stylized stuff soon beyond the toon and anime realm and see how far I can push it. Meanwhile, it's fun to just do some cute renders. This one uses the G2 Florida hair from this week's biweekly freebies.

    That's lovely! She looks like she has stage fright - just missing a microphone. :) Cute render!

  • HighElfHighElf Posts: 365
    edited October 20

    3Diva said:

    HighElf said:

    Is there a way to enlarge the iris with toon eyes? I have a few models that have larger eyes, but I can't find a way to scale the iris accordingly.

    In the Scene Tab select the "Genesis 9 Toon Floating Iris", then in the Shaping Tab select "Eyes" and you can slide the "Eye Iris Size Larger" slider up. You can probably turn the limits off if you need the iris bigger than 100%. 

    Yes, that is it. But why didn't it show up, when I typed 'eye'  into the search filter?

    Anyways thank, you are a lifesaver for those toons in my library xD

     

    P.s.: The setting was hidden by default. Just in case anybody else needs those too.

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  • TaozTaoz Posts: 9,939
    edited October 20

    HighElf said:

    Yes, that is it. But why didn't it show up, when I typed 'eye'  into the search filter?

    P.s.: The setting was hidden by default. Just in case anybody else needs those too.

     

    It does, if you search on "All", also with Show Hidden Properties disabled:



     

     

     

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,435
    edited October 20

    For Transmapped Hair, you'll need to manually reload the trans maps once you apply the Filatoon shader. You'll then want to lower the PBR Masked Threshold to around .12 or so (give or take for personal taste). You'll want to do the same for the "Toon Outline" on the hair (the geometry shell). 

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