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  • vrba79vrba79 Posts: 1,398

    GRFK DSGN Unlimited said:

    I think I'm getting there. I'm liking the results I'm getting finally.

    Yeah, Filatoon is turning out to be even better than I had hoped!

  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,509

    GRFK DSGN Unlimited said:

    I think I'm getting there. I'm liking the results I'm getting finally.

    That's looking great! And good work on the speech bubble as well!

  • GRFK DSGN UnlimitedGRFK DSGN Unlimited Posts: 1,081

    Speech bubble was achieved via Comic Life 3. The image is cropped because of it's mature nature. I have the full image here: https://www.deviantart.com/grfk-dsgn/art/At-the-beach-1119409107

    Only click on the link if nudity doesn't offend you.

  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,045

    Unfortunately, it seems i've come across a pretty glaring issue with the FilaToon geometry shell outline shader.

    It casts shadows, causing extra shadows to appear in places where it shouldn't. This could be fixed by giving it the same cast/recieve shadows option that the main FilaToon shader has, and having it default to off.

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  • 3Diva3Diva Posts: 11,509
    edited November 9
    @TheNathanParable Good catch. Hopefully the devs will become aware of it and change it.
    Post edited by 3Diva on
  • frank0314frank0314 Posts: 14,054

    Daz is aware of the issue

  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989

    frank0314 said:

    Daz is aware of the issue

    Thanks :) I reported it as well

  • TheNathanParableTheNathanParable Posts: 1,045
    edited November 10
    frank0314 said:

    Daz is aware of the issue

    Awesome! Thank you!
    Post edited by TheNathanParable on
  • paidpaid Posts: 34
    edited November 10

    Hi!

    Do I need DAZ 4.23 for toon? I bought the Yakura figure and the toon essentials but all I get in 4.22 is a pitch black figure (no error messages).

    Post edited by paid on
  • Space JingorohSpace Jingoroh Posts: 169

    paid said:

    Hi!

    Do I need DAZ 4.23 for toon? I bought the Yakura figure and the toon essentials but all I get in 4.22 is a pitch black figure (no error messages).

    　As a test, I loaded a scene created in 4.23 with 4.22.0.19.

    　It seems to be impossible.
    　The number of settings in the “Filament Draw Option” menu is completely different.

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  • paidpaid Posts: 34

    Are there still bugs and problems with 4.23? I stll hesitate to install the new version.

     

  • Space JingorohSpace Jingoroh Posts: 169

    paid said:

    Are there still bugs and problems with 4.23? I stll hesitate to install the new version.

     

    　So far I have not encountered any critical bugs in 4.23.
    　Not everyone will use all the features, so the bugs encountered will vary from person to person.

    　Small bugs have been around since 4.22.0.19, so I think it is better to give up on them to some extent and make a choice based on whether they are usable for you.
    　I guess I would keep 4.22 separately and try 4.23.

    　FilaToon sometimes suddenly stops displaying figures.
    　When that happens, restart DazStudio to recover. 

  • Richard HaseltineRichard Haseltine Posts: 100,882

    Space Jingoroh said:

    paid said:

    Hi!

    Do I need DAZ 4.23 for toon? I bought the Yakura figure and the toon essentials but all I get in 4.22 is a pitch black figure (no error messages).

    　As a test, I loaded a scene created in 4.23 with 4.22.0.19.

    　It seems to be impossible.
    　The number of settings in the “Filament Draw Option” menu is completely different.

    Yes, for General Releases the current build is required - or the later public builds leading up to it.

  • GRFK DSGN UnlimitedGRFK DSGN Unlimited Posts: 1,081

    I think this turned out pretty well. I tried adding some detail to the textures that I noticed in Mikey 9 and Vicky 9.

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  • Oso3DOso3D Posts: 15,009

    How did you get the paint stroke look on the skin? I'm assuming a postwork filter?

     

  • GRFK DSGN UnlimitedGRFK DSGN Unlimited Posts: 1,081

    A combination of a Photoshop action from Spoon Graphics that I tweaked to my liking (link below)
    https://blog.spoongraphics.co.uk/tutorials/videos/video-tutorial-grand-theft-auto-gta-effect-photoshop

    And

    NIK Collection - HDR Efex Pro 2

  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989

    That turned out good :) I'm watching Arcane 2nd season at the moment and noticing how much of a painterly effect they incorporated

  • GRFK DSGN UnlimitedGRFK DSGN Unlimited Posts: 1,081

    I like the GTA effect. I'm also partial to Adam Hughes, Alan Davis and Don Newton. Their styles are not really painterly but I like the crispness of their work.

  • ArtsyDragonArtsyDragon Posts: 682

    I am at a loss. I read that we can use the shader on anything. That's awesome. I'm wanting to get the skin texture that shows on Aiko 9 and Vickie on a G8 character. Is this possible? 

  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989

    ArtsyDragon said:

    I am at a loss. I read that we can use the shader on anything. That's awesome. I'm wanting to get the skin texture that shows on Aiko 9 and Vickie on a G8 character. Is this possible? 

    The shader yes, but the skin texture would be using a different uv map. I'm not sure if there is a conversion where you can use G9 textures on G8, someone else might know :)

  • LeanaLeana Posts: 11,712

    Mada said:

    ArtsyDragon said:

    I am at a loss. I read that we can use the shader on anything. That's awesome. I'm wanting to get the skin texture that shows on Aiko 9 and Vickie on a G8 character. Is this possible? 

    The shader yes, but the skin texture would be using a different uv map. I'm not sure if there is a conversion where you can use G9 textures on G8, someone else might know :)

    There's a "Legacy UVs" product to use G9 textures on G8F: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-uvs-for-genesis-8-and-81-female

    Not sure how well that would work with the Filatoon settings though.

  • Serene NightSerene Night Posts: 17,646

    I'm running into issues where the toon morphs or correctives, particularly for the eyes like the highlights are being listed in the 'currently used morphs' and even dialed in for characters that are not using the toon eyes. I'm not sure how to fix that.

    facs_ctrl_EyeBlinkCrescentStrength

    head_ctrl_ToonIrisHighlightSpread

    head_ctrl_ToonIrisHighlightSide-Side

  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989

    Just with some characters/morphs? or all genesis morphs... and is it happening with posed figures, or standing in zero position. :)

  • paidpaid Posts: 34

    Another question:

    I can use Toon materials on a standard G9 figure and it looks close to the toon figures. Only problem are the eyes. Is there a way to change the eyes of a G9 figure to toon (or at least make them bigger)?

  • MadaMada Posts: 1,989
    edited November 12

    paid said:

    Another question:

    I can use Toon materials on a standard G9 figure and it looks close to the toon figures. Only problem are the eyes. Is there a way to change the eyes of a G9 figure to toon (or at least make them bigger)?

    The anime figures are built on the standard G9 figure. If you load the feminine anime figure you can find the dials on the shaping tab under currently selected. Drag the Base Anime Feminine Dial to 0%
    Now you have the basic G9 figure with the toon eyes, as well as all the morphs and controls for the toon eyes.

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  • CES3DCES3D Posts: 17

    Leana said:

    Mada said:

    ArtsyDragon said:

    I am at a loss. I read that we can use the shader on anything. That's awesome. I'm wanting to get the skin texture that shows on Aiko 9 and Vickie on a G8 character. Is this possible? 

    The shader yes, but the skin texture would be using a different uv map. I'm not sure if there is a conversion where you can use G9 textures on G8, someone else might know :)

    There's a "Legacy UVs" product to use G9 textures on G8F: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-uvs-for-genesis-8-and-81-female

    Not sure how well that would work with the Filatoon settings though.

    I've transferred the material from "Genesis 9 Base Anime Feminine" to "Genesis 8 Basic Female" using the "Genesis 9 UVs for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female".
    Due to the unique UV layout of the eyes, eyelashes, and eyebrows in G9 Base Anime, I've adapted the Genesis 9 Toon Anatomy(Attachment) to Genesis 8 using the Auto-Fit feature. 

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  • SapphireBlueSapphireBlue Posts: 959

    CES3D said:

    Leana said:

     

    There's a "Legacy UVs" product to use G9 textures on G8F: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-uvs-for-genesis-8-and-81-female

    Not sure how well that would work with the Filatoon settings though.

    I've transferred the material from "Genesis 9 Base Anime Feminine" to "Genesis 8 Basic Female" using the "Genesis 9 UVs for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female".
    Due to the unique UV layout of the eyes, eyelashes, and eyebrows in G9 Base Anime, I've adapted the Genesis 9 Toon Anatomy(Attachment) to Genesis 8 using the Auto-Fit feature. 

    That's well done!! Thanks for sharing your results and process. yes 

  • ArtsyDragonArtsyDragon Posts: 682
    edited November 12

    CES3D said:

    Leana said:

    Mada said:

    ArtsyDragon said:

    I am at a loss. I read that we can use the shader on anything. That's awesome. I'm wanting to get the skin texture that shows on Aiko 9 and Vickie on a G8 character. Is this possible? 

    The shader yes, but the skin texture would be using a different uv map. I'm not sure if there is a conversion where you can use G9 textures on G8, someone else might know :)

    There's a "Legacy UVs" product to use G9 textures on G8F: https://www.daz3d.com/genesis-9-uvs-for-genesis-8-and-81-female

    Not sure how well that would work with the Filatoon settings though.

    I've transferred the material from "Genesis 9 Base Anime Feminine" to "Genesis 8 Basic Female" using the "Genesis 9 UVs for Genesis 8 and 8.1 Female".
    Due to the unique UV layout of the eyes, eyelashes, and eyebrows in G9 Base Anime, I've adapted the Genesis 9 Toon Anatomy(Attachment) to Genesis 8 using the Auto-Fit feature. 

    @Mada Thank you for kick starting my brain again. I knew that. I just didn't remember when I needed it.

    I already have that package. I feel like I should have known this. Thank you all for your patience with me. For the extra tip @Ces3D thank you. :)

    In fact, I have all the G9 to (other G figure) packages. Now I'm excited to try this transfer procedure on them too! WOOT! If I can get it to work like decribed, look out world!

    Post edited by ArtsyDragon on
  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,880

    GRFK DSGN Unlimited said:

    I'm not going for Anime/Manga. Example of what I'm going after attached to this post. Excuse the misogynistic undertones.

    That looks great! I really like the way the shadows came out. I'm still having a problem getting shadows the way I like in FilaToon, And it's not misogynistic at all! Pretty girls in bikinis are all over women's magazines!

  • WonderlandWonderland Posts: 6,880

    Space Jingoroh said:

     

    　

    　Small bugs have been around since 4.22.0.19, so I think it is better to give up on them to some extent and make a choice based on whether they are usable for you.
    　I guess I would keep 4.22 separately and try 4.23.

    　FilaToon sometimes suddenly stops displaying figures.
    　When that happens, restart DazStudio to recover. 
     

    Yes, that happened to me. The figure completely disappeared and then DS crashed. crying

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