[Beta Update] FoliageMaker plugin (1.1 beta available)

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,458
    edited October 2023

    Finally manage to grow foliage with custom FoliageRoot.

    It is very picky about its placement, but after some attempts, it worked.

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  • AnEye4ArtAnEye4Art Posts: 766

    Beautiful work.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,458

    Thank you very much, @AnEye4Art.

     

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244

    Artini said:

    Finally manage to grow foliage with custom FoliageRoot.

    It is very picky about its placement, but after some attempts, it worked.

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    That's a nice one. I really like the lighting and the emissive foliage looks great.

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    edited October 2023

    This is Thicket for G8M with ivy and cherry Foliage Maker.

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  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,458

    @barbult : Thanks a lot for the comments.

    Your image looks nice.

     

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,458

    More experiments with FoliageMaker...

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244

    It's fun to just play with it and see what comes out.

  • AnEye4ArtAnEye4Art Posts: 766

    Fun image: All hail king Ready-Killa-Watt, the brightest bulb in the kingdom!

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,458

    Thanks a lot for the comments.

    I like to play with https://www.daz3d.com/light-bob

    because it can be posed and it takes a little of resources on my computer.

  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,384
    edited October 2023

    I finally had the time to play with this last evening. I spent most of the time just playing with the various parameters on some basic primitives, but finally made a couple of pictures.

    First is just a simple growth up a squashed cone and a plane on either side of the English Pub door:

    Second I thought I'd spruce up the old Garden of Galahad with Iray shaders to replace the (frankly flat-looking) grass and hedges and wind some foliage around the statues. It's a big single-object thing, so I actually exported to Blender, removed all but the statues, imported as obj to grow the foliage up then hid the Blender object. I used a syringa sprig from Lilac Chill Out instanced on one set of FM branches on each pillar.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    They both look nice. I particularly like your red rose bush made on the cone. I'm looking forward to a future update that will hopefully allow us to grow foliage on less than the whole object. Your Blender workaround looks successful.
  • MelanieLMelanieL Posts: 7,384

    Thank you.

    I was working on another rose bush and managed to get the roses mostly at the top, but I can't remember exactly what I did (and don't have a picture) because I managed to freeze DS and had to cancel through Task Manager. I don't think the freeze was anything to do with FoliageMaker, it was just me doing something stupid/impatient. Anyway I lost what I was working on. I hope to have time to try some more later today.

    I look forward to that future update too!

  • MartialMartial Posts: 424

     

    Allo

    Wnen i select cuustom why i receive a message indicating these files are missing:
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/iFoliageRoot_271455.dsf
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/UV Sets/Alessandro_AM/Base/default.dsf

    and how can i select the roses  (i have installed AM Foliage Maker Rose in prop folder)

    thanks

  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244

    Martial said:

     

    Allo

    Wnen i select cuustom why i receive a message indicating these files are missing:
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/iFoliageRoot_271455.dsf
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/UV Sets/Alessandro_AM/Base/default.dsf

    and how can i select the roses  (i have installed AM Foliage Maker Rose in prop folder)

    thanks

    Regarding the missing files: Did you install both the plugin package and the content package? Your missing files are in The FoliageMaker Studio Content package. You should see it in DIM. Install it.

    Regarding the roses: You select the rose prop as the instance object for FoliageMaker. I posted a DIM package earlier in the thread to install the rose and rose materials, if you want to download and install that.

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,849

    Am I doing something wrong? Whatever I try the plugin won't grow the foliage beyond a radius of about two metres.

  • ArtiniArtini Posts: 9,458
    edited October 2023

    Further exploring posable figures with FoliageMaker.

    This time: https://www.daz3d.com/metal-golem

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  • alexhcowleyalexhcowley Posts: 2,386

    Ascania said:

    Am I doing something wrong? Whatever I try the plugin won't grow the foliage beyond a radius of about two metres.

    Try increasing the iterations parameter from its default, 100, to something higher, if you haven't done this already.  There is a fair bit of experimentation required to discover the optimum set of parameters to do what the user wishes. 

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,343

    alexhcowley said:

    Ascania said:

    Am I doing something wrong? Whatever I try the plugin won't grow the foliage beyond a radius of about two metres.

    Try increasing the iterations parameter from its default, 100, to something higher, if you haven't done this already.  There is a fair bit of experimentation required to discover the optimum set of parameters to do what the user wishes. 

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

    Also... as mentioned a few times...try shrinking your item and making it smaller... then grow the vines... then resize larger once the vines are to your liking :)  It works great!

  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,849

    alexhcowley said:

    Try increasing the iterations parameter from its default, 100, to something higher, if you haven't done this already.  There is a fair bit of experimentation required to discover the optimum set of parameters to do what the user wishes. 

    Cheers,

    Alex. 

     Tried that. Didn't help.

     

     

    Llola Lane said:

    Also... as mentioned a few times...try shrinking your item and making it smaller... then grow the vines... then resize larger once the vines are to your liking :)  It works great!

    That's that I'm currently doing. Unfortunately one of the side effect of that method is that the vines are not as skinny as I want them to be when upscaled.

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    Llola Lane said:

    Also... as mentioned a few times...try shrinking your item and making it smaller... then grow the vines... then resize larger once the vines are to your liking :)  It works great!

    That's that I'm currently doing. Unfortunately one of the side effect of that method is that the vines are not as skinny as I want them to be when upscaled.

    What if you reduce the twig radius setting to 0.1 (the minimum)? Does it help?

  • Llola LaneLlola Lane Posts: 9,343
    edited October 2023

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

     

    Llola Lane said:

    Also... as mentioned a few times...try shrinking your item and making it smaller... then grow the vines... then resize larger once the vines are to your liking :)  It works great!

    That's that I'm currently doing. Unfortunately one of the side effect of that method is that the vines are not as skinny as I want them to be when upscaled.

    What if you reduce the twig radius setting to 0.1 (the minimum)? Does it help?

    You can also make the leaves smaller... gotta find a happy medium doing it this way... but yes... reducing the twig radius helped me too... but then again it depends on how big you want to resize it back up.  Please share your results once you get it working Ascania... I'd love to see what you made :)

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  • AscaniaAscania Posts: 1,849
    edited October 2023

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    What if you reduce the twig radius setting to 0.1 (the minimum)? Does it help?

    Thanks, that works. I tried it on the surface distance and it jumped back to 1.00, so I didn't go further.

    But in a related question, I was trying to have the foliage grow inside a pot and spill over the edge but it just grows through the mesh. Is there something I can do about that or is it a limitation of the plugin?

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  • Ascania said:

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    What if you reduce the twig radius setting to 0.1 (the minimum)? Does it help?

    Thanks, that works. I tried it on the surface distance and it jumped back to 1.00, so I didn't go further.

    But in a related question, I was trying to have the foliage grow inside a pot and spill over the edge but it just grows through the mesh. Is there something I can do about that or is it a limitation of the plugin?

    It isn't made (yet) to build geometry on inner surfaces. But one trick could be to have a smaller pot (that fits inside the larger one) and grow foliage on that. Then of course you would hide the smaller pot at render (since it serves just as a mesh to grow foliage) and that would leave you with the larger pot and the foliage inside.

  • BTW, I see lot of great images and projects done with FoliageMaker. Thanks a lot for using it and showing your experiences. Update 1.1 with immediate fixes for instancing should be released pretty soon.

  • Martial said:

     

    Allo

    Wnen i select cuustom why i receive a message indicating these files are missing:
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/iFoliageRoot_271455.dsf
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/UV Sets/Alessandro_AM/Base/default.dsf

    and how can i select the roses  (i have installed AM Foliage Maker Rose in prop folder)

    thanks

    Hi, did you manage to fix it? Barbuit hint should be the solution but if you have still troubles you can also email me.

  • Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    BTW, I see lot of great images and projects done with FoliageMaker. Thanks a lot for using it and showing your experiences. Update 1.1 with immediate fixes for instancing should be released pretty soon.

    Thank you, looking forward to that.

    So, 1.2 building geometry on inner surfaces?

  • DoctorJellybean said:

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    BTW, I see lot of great images and projects done with FoliageMaker. Thanks a lot for using it and showing your experiences. Update 1.1 with immediate fixes for instancing should be released pretty soon.

    Thank you, looking forward to that.

    So, 1.2 building geometry on inner surfaces?

    Yes and not only that, also presets load/save, fixes for larger geometries and more features.

  • MartialMartial Posts: 424
    edited October 2023

    Thanks for reply  The missing files are there now but the roses are installed but not used by the plugin Idem always the same foliage when i use it I cannot chose in AM props

     

    Alessandro Mastronardi said:

    Martial said:

     

    Allo

    Wnen i select cuustom why i receive a message indicating these files are missing:
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/iFoliageRoot_271455.dsf
    /data/Alessandro_AM/Foliage Maker/FoliageRoot/UV Sets/Alessandro_AM/Base/default.dsf

    and how can i select the roses  (i have installed AM Foliage Maker Rose in prop folder)

    thanks

    Hi, did you manage to fix it? Barbuit hint should be the solution but if you have still troubles you can also email me.

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  • barbultbarbult Posts: 24,244
    edited October 2023

    @Martial I see you have the rose installed. It is in the AM Foliage Maker Rose product right below the FoliageMaker product you have highlighted in your screenshot. You need to load the rose into your scene and then select it as the object to be instanced in the FoliageMaker plugin. It is demonstrated in the controls overview video that is on the FoliageMaker product page in the store. Here is a link to the section of the video that explains the process (chapter Instancing at 17:30). The whole video is helpful. The video is also linked in the FoliageMaker Manual.

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